How is music not a tool of Satan?

[Kelly of the Phoenix]

Allowed Music is:
Music that glorifys Allah and His Messenger.

I think any soul deepening song counts, then, even if the lyrics aren't specifically about religion.

If you're jammin' and you go AMEN after the song ... counts, right?

Some peoples world is upside down, what's good is evil, and what's evil is good.

Yeah, I agree, like when people think the various art forms are evil ...

Well Islam deals straightforwardly with every issue: If it isn't specifically allowed, then it is forbidden.

Meh. I'm more of a "if it ain't bad, it's good" kind of person.

If music breeds anxiety and depression, then how can anxiety and depression not cause hatred and violence to occur?

Violence against my music player of choice, I suppose, like throwing the radio against the wall, but I think Allah is more mature, with greater self-control, don't you?

Reminds me of one who does our work. He fast, but inaccurate.

Then he's a crappy worker, and music has nothing to do with it.

How is music not an in-direct cause to hatred and violence?

*imagines Muslim bombers singing "Hi-Ho, Hi-Ho, it's off to work we go" before each attack ....*

I think he'll leave when people stop giving him attention by responding to his threads.

It's like a train wreck ... just have to see what new sin is up for grabs this week.

 

[Pie'Oh'Pah]

If I was an alien and visited earth, and a person explained to me that "Satan" was bad and "God" was good. I would take a look at world events, current and historical, and assume that religion, especially the three main Abrahamic religions were tools of "Satan". I would see the joy that music brings and assume it was a tool of "God".

Life is here to be enjoyed. Anything that can help you enjoy existance without affecting others existance negatively, or that can help you affect others existance positively (assuming they are ok with that) is a good / "God" thing. Everything that helps you affect others existance is a Bad / "Satan" thing.

 

[sovietchild]

If Islamic sermons distract someone from work, then would they be considered Satanic?

Well, if it does distracts, then its a bad action. Right? One might think of this action as extreme.

Spoiler: Prophet Muhammad once said:

“O people, beware of extremism in religion for those who came before you were only destroyed because of extremism in religion.”

I think he'll leave when people stop giving him attention by responding to his threads.

I remember when my sister reverted to Islam, she started to hang out with a new crew. The crew that she hung out with had boyfriends and girlfriends, they liked to listen 'pop' music like Britney Spears, and smoke hookah at the same time. So, my question to you is, how often do you listen to 'pop' music?

For one it shows that you misunderstand the very faith you believe in. Otherwise, it shows that Islam does not forbid music much less that music is the work of Shaytan.
Where are you getting your misinformation from?
Or are you just making up new Hadiths to promote your misanthropy?

Where do you see me making up new Hadith?

So is doing anything else you enjoy during negative periods in your life. Anything else?

Great, I'm glad you liked it - let's chat sometimes. One last thing, I didn't really understand your question.

Then he's a crappy worker, and music has nothing to do with it.

How so? How is music not a distraction?

Interesting, in this verse the Quran describes Satan as a third rate juvenile delinquent who would burn his lips trying to blow up a car. Big Deal!!!!!

I thought that verse was about a spirit which refused to bow down to a human out of pride.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Work for example. There is one at my work who listens to music everyday. How are chances of making a mistake does not increase while listening to music?

At work, I have my headphones in and do my job, job it faster than anyone else, and accurately.

 

[QuestioningMind]

If music breeds anxiety and depression, then how can anxiety and depression not cause hatred and violence to occur?

But music DOESN'T breed anxiety or depression, so there's nothing to worry about. The only reason I can imagine why music WOULD breed anxiety and depression is if you have some bizarre notion that God doesn't want you to listen to music. But of course God is about joy and love, so God WANTS us to find the joy and love that music expresses. Anyone who tells you that should fear something that brings you genuine joy is actually Satan.

 

[sovietchild]

But music DOESN'T breed anxiety or depression, so there's nothing to worry about. The only reason I can imagine why music WOULD breed anxiety and depression is if you have some bizarre notion that God doesn't want you to listen to music. But of course God is about joy and love, so God WANTS us to find the joy and love that music expresses. Anyone who tells you that should fear something that brings you genuine joy is actually Satan.

It actually does, music has two types of intervals - major and minor. Pop music is usually in minor intervals. Minor interval is basically sounds sad, so the question is, how can sad music not breed depression?

 

[QuestioningMind]

How is music not a tool of Satan?

How is Soviet Child not an agent of Satan?

After all God is about love and joy, while Satan is all about spreading fear. All of SC's threads are about spreading fear of music, birthdays, statues, etc. Satan wants humanity filled with fear and distrust and Soviet Child appears to be one of the most fearful and distrustful people I've ever encountered. He never posts about finding the love and joy in this life, only about how everyone should FEAR doing anything that might bring joy or happiness into their lives. In my opinion that's about as evil as it gets.

 

[QuestioningMind]

It actually does, music has two types of intervals - major and minor. Pop music is usually in minor intervals. Minor interval is basically sounds sad, so the question is, how can sad music not breed depression?

Sadness and sorrow are a part of life and expressing ones sadness or sorrow via music can allow one to find happiness and joy. Why are you so intent of denying people vital tools they made need for finding happiness and joy in their lives? Trying to prevent people from finding happiness and joy is just plain evil.

 

[sovietchild]

Sadness and sorrow are a part of life and expressing ones sadness or sorrow via music can allow one to find happiness and joy. Why are you so intent of denying people vital tools they made need for finding happiness and joy in their lives? Trying to prevent people from finding happiness and joy is just plain evil.

How is it not the other way around? I'm trying to lead people into not being addicted to music.

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Have you ever actually listened to any pop music, soviet?

 

[sovietchild]

Have you ever actually listened to any pop music, soviet?

Didn't I already stated in this topic that I am a holder of an audio engineering certificate?

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Didn't I already stated in this topic that I am a holder of an audio engineering certificate?

That does not answer whether or not you've listened to what you condemn.

 

[QuestioningMind]

How is it not the other way around? I'm trying to lead people into not being addicted to music.

Music addiction is only a problem in YOUR mind. NO ONE is being treated for Music Addiction, because the condition does not exist. All you ever seem to want to do is spread FEAR. That's what Satan does, He SPREADS FEAR and tries to make people turn away from the joys of life. Why are you CONSTANTLY doing that? Who do you work for?

 

[sovietchild]

Didn't I already stated in this topic that I am a holder of an audio engineering certificate?

That does not answer whether or not you've listened to what you condemn.

I'm sorry to trouble you, but how does even make sense? I'm assuming you know what an audio engineer is.

 

[sovietchild]

Music addiction is only a problem in YOUR mind. NO ONE is being treated for Music Addiction, because the condition does not exist. All you ever seem to want to do is spread FEAR. That's what Satan does, He SPREADS FEAR and tries to make people turn away from the joys of life. Why are you CONSTANTLY doing that? Who do you work for?

Some people say they can't live without music. How is that not addiction?

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

I'm sorry to trouble you, but how does even make sense? I'm assuming you know what an audio engineer is.

Yeah, and it's pretty broad. Have you ever listened to pop music.

 

[sovietchild]

Yeah, and it's pretty broad. Have you ever listened to pop music.

How do you think audio engineers gets their licenses?

 

[The Kilted Heathen]

Soviet, you're not answering the question. You're very bad (or good) about doing that. Have you ever listened to pop music?

 

[LuisDantas]

I think he'll leave when people stop giving him attention by responding to his threads.

Of course, that might easily be mistaken for quiet acceptance of a non-existent argument, so I don't know that it would actually be a better course of action.

Well, if it does distracts, then its a bad action. Right? One might think of this action as extreme.

Distractions are automatically bad actions, then?

What do you understand by distractions, and why are they automatically bad?

Do you mean any and all distractions, or perhaps only those that distract from something specific?

 

[QuestioningMind]

Some people say they can't live without music. How is that not addiction?

Have you ever heard of a figure of speech? No one has DIED because they didn't have access to music... it's just a way of saying that music brings a significant amount of JOY into their lives and that they would miss it if it were gone. Why are you SO against people finding JOY in their lives? God wants us to feel JOY, not this FEAR that you keep spreading. Who do you work for?