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I don’t really understand what you’re confused about. Do you mean you think Zelensky speaking Russian means Ukraine is part of Russia? Russian is the first language of many Moldovans. Many can barely speak their native language. Not many Scots or Irish have Gaelic as their first language. Relatively few can speak Gaelic fluently at all. This is what happens when countries become part of an empire, their culture is steadily eroded.
So they were part of the Russian empire? Zelenskyy is only now learning Ukrainian by the way.
You say that as if it makes it any better. Ukraine is a sovereign country. Russia has no claim to any of its land. "Even though at one point Ukraine was part of Russia" is just more pro-Russia defense.
Yeah, gee, I wonder why. Couldn't be because THEY WERE WORRIED ABOUT GETTING INVADED JUST LIKE THEY DID.
So, to recap:
Yes - ? Like I said, after about 400 years under Lithuanian/Polish rule, what is now Ukraine was carved up by the Hapburgs and imperial Russia. After that, a brief period of independence, then relatively short Russian Bolshevik domination before becoming an ‘independent’ Soviet Republic.
Being part of an empire is not the same as being part of the same country, if that’s what you’re asking.
Donbas deserves independence from Kiev, especially after Kiev has become a globalist godless sewer.
Donbas deserves independence from Kiev, especially after Kiev has become a globalist godless sewer.
Please, dear!!!
No, it doesn't.
There's that "godless" thing again. I also like that you think "globalist" is somehow an insult. But yeah, Kiev has become just a normal place, not the anti-Christ Putin wants you to believe it is.especially after Kiev has become a globalist godless sewer.
Kiev persecuted the Russians of Donbas.Yeah and that is a proper laywer answer and you won the debate. Go to Ukraine to the front and explain that the war is over as you won the debate and they should stop fighting.
By preventing them from speaking Russian in schools, and by outlawing separatism.
By preventing them from speaking Russian in schools, and by outlawing separatism.
Which in every civilized country it is legal. It is legal in Scotland, it is legal in Catalonia, it is legal in South Tyrol.
But Poroshenko's Ukraine was not civilized.
I did show you where you are wrong, you just didn't accept it. That's fine, I guess. It's your prerogative I suppose.
No, you didn't. All you did was say you don't believe Russia wants to control all of Ukraine. For one, they're invading all of Ukraine, not just part of it. For another, they're doing it to stop Ukraine from joining NATO, which is an attempt to control Ukraine, not just part of it. And then you gave an inaccurate recap of Ukraine's relationship with NATO and implied there was something fishy about them "suddenly" wanting to join, even though it wasn't sudden, and there's nothin fishy about wanting protection from a country that is now currently invading you.
But we wouldn't be forced to defend them. Russia is doing this now because they don't want Ukraine to join, because Putin knows if they join, he can't attack anymore, unless he wants to risk WWIII. Notice how he doesn't go after any actual NATO countries, just ones that want to join. Besides, this is pretty selfish. I'm all for requiring Ukraine to meet some standards before joining, but to say "Nah, you're on your own. Good luck with Russia" is pretty heartless. But then, I guess that is the conservative platform these days.
Um...OK.
There you go. Look, the US can't intervene in every global conflict.
I believe I do.
Sorry, didn't finish that post but I have since then.
That is an odd statement.