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How on earth can the Qur'an be considered the perfect book?

serp777

Well-Known Member
The verse says that God made earth a fixed place for us to live in,IOW make it suitable
for us to live in, fixed for us and not fixed and a stationary planet, twisting the meaning
by such anti Islam websites is only understood by people who don't want to use their
own minds.
No you're twisting the meaning so it isn't contradictory. Nothing about the earth is fixed,. or stable, or stationary. It isn't a fixed abode. And many parts aren't suitable actually, like how about 85% of the surface of the earth isn't good for human life--oceans, deserts, ice wastelands, wastelands, etc. Are you aware of what fixed and stationary means? What do those words mean to you? You're being ridiculous and going to great lengths to explain away obvious problems.

I mean if you don't want to listen to your book and just invent clearly false interpretations just so the book doesn't look so wrong, then I guess you can but you're decieving yourself.
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
So what if his throne on the water, 75% of our earth consist of water.

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There is obviously no throne on the ocean. Another Quran contradiction.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
No you're twisting the meaning so it isn't contradictory. Nothing about the earth is fixed,. or stable, or stationary. It isn't a fixed abode. And many parts aren't suitable actually, like how about 85% of the surface of the earth isn't good for human life--oceans, deserts, ice wastelands, wastelands, etc. Are you aware of what fixed and stationary means? What do those words mean to you? You're being ridiculous and going to great lengths to explain away obvious problems.

I mean if you don't want to listen to your book and just invent clearly false interpretations just so the book doesn't look so wrong, then I guess you can but you're decieving yourself.

Go and see what قرارا means which is derived from يستقر or مقر then come back to me.
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
Such elastic predictions are both meaningless and useless if one is honest about it.

I believe there is an expression that fits here. "Throwing everything at the wall".
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
No, go see what stationary and fixed mean. What you did isn't an argument, its a deflection.

I know what it means, both means ثابت, which has different meaning than قرارا
How you debate while you don't know Arabic?
How can you make your own judgement?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
It isn't on any ocean according to the abrahamic faiths. Its outside of space and time. Oceans require space, time, matter, etc, which God is beyond.

His throne doesn't mean God, they have their own time system which is differ than ours,
The same as this universe is his with its own system for time.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Well he doesn't unless he needs to satisfy his boredom. Plus asking this question isn't an explanation. Are you implying God is capricious and does random crazy things?

To answer your question then i have to ask God, so sorry, i'm not an Angel.
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
To answer your question then i have to ask God, so sorry, i'm not an Angel.
So you admit you don't actually know anything about God or his mind or desires. I mean you can't even answer this basic question so why do you think Islam is valid?
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
His throne doesn't mean God, they have their own time system which is differ than ours,
The same as this universe is his with its own system for time.
Lol how do you have this special knowledge? So they're on God pacific time? Give me a break you don't know they have there own time system or if God needs time--after all God made time according to you so why does he have his own time. ALso if he has his own time then there must have been a beginning where there was no time.
 

serp777

Well-Known Member
I know what it means, both means ثابت, which has different meaning than قرارا
How you debate while you don't know Arabic?
How can you make your own judgement?

Its called a translation LOL, ever heard of it? Do you need to know Greek in order to read and discuss the illiad? No, because it got translated. I'm not going to deal with whatever arbitrary interpretation or personal definition you come up with. Im going with a translated copy. Also you were just debating it; you just made this lame point now because you know you just lost the previous point and you needed something to fall back on that I supposedly can't question or debate. Give me a break dude. be real, get serious.
 
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