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How on earth can the Qur'an be considered the perfect book?

FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
morphesium said:
As you walk along and if you happened to see some cow dung lying in front of you (but you haven't seen any cow there), will it take huge reasoning power and intelligence (beyond the capability of a normal human) to judge that it came from a cow???? No. just rational thinking is enough for the job.

Give a jigsaw puzzle to a kid and he will solve it with his own reasoning.

Point mutations in the genes are happening all the time and this is observable.
Mutations if happens in the reproductive cell gets it carried to the offspring. one in a million mutation will give the organism an added advantage with respect to the other. Under the natural selection process, its population grows exponentially. Over time such mutations adds up. As the population of the herd goes beyond a certain limit, it usually breaks up and moves to some other place. If there is no inter mingling between the two groups, and since mutations are happening all the time, this will eventually lead to the formation of a different species.

Genetics is a huge branch of science with millions of people contributing to it and thinking about it. If they happened to find some error in it on the way, they (or others) will suggest how to rectify it and thousands will scrutinize it over time.

Genetically engineered medicines such as insulin, antibiotics etc are all proofs that our science is on the right path. It can predict the medical conditions (future) of a kid even before the kid is born. take preventive steps so the kid will have a healthier life. It can predict the ancestry of human history and the evolution of various organisms.

If you (or your loved ones) happened to have a disease and if you go to a doctor, he may be be prescribing medications that were produced by the blessings of modern genetic engineering.
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Studying and understanding the heart doesn't mean that we can produce hearts, we can't even
produce the human blood and rely on blood donations.
 
serp777

serp777

Well-Known Member
FearGod said:
I'm a Muslim and i trust it's the right way of life to me, and no i don't have all the answers about God.
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So you trust because you know its true even though you don't have the answers? That has to be the most circular and contradicting thing mentioned all week. Do you also trust that your trust is reliable?
 
serp777

serp777

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FearGod said:
Yes the quran is for Muslims and not for you, i don't know even why you
need to discuss it.
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I don't need to do anything. You certainly don't need to go on here and debate us either. Furthermore Muslims have a profound impact on the world and if you think Muslims aren't relevant to this world and everyone then you're sadly ignorant. So no, the Quran is not for Muslims; its also for western society to dismantle and show the large number of tragic fallacies and disgusting moral absolutes.
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
It is amazing how many people - of mutually exclusive claims, no less - feel entitled to decide what we should believe in.

That the Qur'an encourages this is answer enough to the OP's question.
 
use_your_brain

use_your_brain

Active Member
serp777 said:
Just love him i guess. get down on your hands and knees and give yourself over to God. Let him into your heart or whatever. Talk to a preacher or something.
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who said we have to do like that?
and what do you mean let jesus into the heart? can jesus go inside the heart? did he already back from the space i mean heaven? why do we need to talk to the preacher? what if we are in the middle of the jungle?
 
use_your_brain

use_your_brain

Active Member
LuisDantas said:
It is amazing how many people - of mutually exclusive claims, no less - feel entitled to decide what we should believe in.

That the Qur'an encourages this is answer enough to the OP's question.
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it is the reason we stick in the such religious forum, we want every one to follow and to approve our religious idea.
 
LuisDantas

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
use_your_brain said:
it is the reason we stick in the such religious forum, we want every one to follow and to approve our religious idea.
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You may want to read the Forum Mission in the rules page, then.

I am fairly sure that not only you will be frustrated, but frustrating such a reason for being here is very much necessary.
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
serp777 said:
So you trust because you know its true even though you don't have the answers? That has to be the most circular and contradicting thing mentioned all week. Do you also trust that your trust is reliable?
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When you can have all the answers about this universe then i'll have all the answers about God, simple equation.
 
use_your_brain

use_your_brain

Active Member
LuisDantas said:
You may want to read the Forum Mission in the rules page, then.

I am fairly sure that not only you will be frustrated, but frustrating such a reason for being here is very much necessary.
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I am very enjoying talking about religion. So I would never be frustrated just because they don't follow my idea. I know the disbeliever would never be a believer even thought they see hell, or heaven (except Allah changes their mind). On this such forum I try to defend my faith from misunderstanding, so every one may see their mistake regard to islam.
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
serp777 said:
I don't need to do anything. You certainly don't need to go on here and debate us either. Furthermore Muslims have a profound impact on the world and if you think Muslims aren't relevant to this world and everyone then you're sadly ignorant. So no, the Quran is not for Muslims; its also for western society to dismantle and show the large number of tragic fallacies and disgusting moral absolutes.
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The quran is for the ones who believe on it, why to read physics while you have no interest on physics.
Yes Islam is everywhere and it'll always be, you can't stop it.

At least and as to be a good debater you should study the language of the quran and not just depending
on the experts, the verse which we discussed was translated by some other experts as "a place to settle",
where as you want it to be a stationary earth while you're ignorant about the language of the quran,
How can you judge which is right and which is wrong, i can but you can't.

The quran isn't for you, my advise to you to read more about evolution, that'll be better for you.
 
The Emperor of Mankind

The Emperor of Mankind

Currently the galaxy's spookiest paraplegic
FearGod said:
Yes the quran is for Muslims and not for you, i don't know even why you
need to discuss it.
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Sadly there are barbarians out there who want the Quran to be for us as well as you. They dream of tearing down the civilised world and setting up a society with the Quran at its heart. So sitting back and ignoring the flaws in a self-proclaimed "perfect book" is not in anybody's interests but theirs'.
 
FearGod

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
A Greased Scotsman said:
Sadly there are barbarians out there who want the Quran to be for us as well as you. They dream of tearing down the civilised world and setting up a society with the Quran at its heart. So sitting back and ignoring the flaws in a self-proclaimed "perfect book" is not in anybody's interests but theirs'.
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Don't listen to them and turn your back, end of the story.
 
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