Huge gap between humans and animals

[A Vestigial Mote]

Do you mean it was due time that humans were able to be different than the rest of the animals?
If we give a million years for monkeys then they'll start to record their knowledge and have refrigerators and planes..etc or humans was made differently and hence lived a different
style of life than the rest of the animals?

Did you actually read my post at all? I said first and foremost that it was our ability to reason with abstract concepts.

But even then... even with that boost in intelligence, it took us thousands of years to piece together a life and livelihood that got us to a point that we weren't still hunting and gathering. Even rudimentary things like language had to be invented. We weren't just "top dog" right out of the gate. Don't be naive.

 

[ecco]

Do you honestly think there WASN'T a time when humans live a lot more like animals do now?

About 95% of human history.

 

[ecco]

If we give a million years for monkeys then they'll start to record their knowledge

Nope. We humans will never let that happen.

However, I do wish we could have been closer to bonobos than chimps. Bonobos have much better ways of problem resolution.

 

[FearGod]

Did you actually read my post at all? I said first and foremost that it was our ability to reason with abstract concepts.

But even then... even with that boost in intelligence, it took us thousands of years to piece together a life and livelihood that got us to a point that we weren't still hunting and gathering. Even rudimentary things like language had to be invented. We weren't just "top dog" right out of the gate. Don't be naive.

It's like saying the computers make good results because of the programs and not
because of the computers and how it was made, who's the naive then!

 

[FearGod]

The parasitic wasp that turns its victims into living zombies to be eaten alive by its larvae are also unique. And they have the great quality of not believing in different and mutually contradicting imaginary beings, unlike some humans. Probably. Which is a plus for them.

Basically all species are unique, otherwise there would be only one species, trivially unique.

So, I am not sure what your point is.

Ciao

- viole

Do you prefer to be a parasitic wasp then?

 

[viole]

Do you prefer to be a parasitic wasp then?

Cannot say. Since I don’t know how it feels like being a wasp. Maybe its great, who knows? For sure, they appear to not believe in weird things like gods and stuff.

But I would like to know how it feels to be a larva eating a warm alive caterpillar inside out. Must be thrilling.

Don’t you think so?

Ciao

- viole

 

[FearGod]

Cannot say. Since I don’t know how it feels like being a wasp. Maybe its great, who knows? For sure, they appear to not believe in weird things like gods and stuff.

But I would like to know how it feels to be a larva eating a warm alive caterpillar inside out. Must be thrilling.

Don’t you think so?

Ciao

- viole

Are we lucky that we aren't be eaten similar to the alive caterpillar,
Do you really believe it's all about luck? unlucky the caterpillars

 

[shunyadragon]

If so then why you were opposing me in this thread that God planned for humans to exist?

That IS NOT the whole story.

Answer the questions! Still waiting . . .

 

[shunyadragon]

you are choosing to ignore

good luck with your ignorance

Failure to back up your assertions with a high fog index based on your selected agenda is your modus operandi.

There is absolutely no science in Genesis.

 

[FearGod]

That IS NOT the whole story.

Answer the questions! Still waiting . . .

What are your questions?

 

[shunyadragon]

What are your questions?

I said your views were not clear concerning science. I asked clarification I apologize if it was not clear.

"This is open to question, because you have not clarified your view concerning the sciences of evolution and abiogenesis, and as a matter of cosmology where the nature of our universe is vast and billions of years old, or the view of science as is science without a theistic agenda nor qualifications.

Abiogenesis and evolution are sciences of physical processes without any assumptions nor conclusions concerning the existence of God, nor which religions is true."

Are you willing to accept science as science is concerning the nature of our physical existence?
So far, your view reflects the fundamentalist Christian view of 'Intelligent Design,' and the unique separate creation of humanity.

 

[FearGod]

I said your views were not clear concerning science. I asked clarification I apologize if it was not clear.

"This is open to question, because you have not clarified your view concerning the sciences of evolution and abiogenesis, and as a matter of cosmology where the nature of our universe is vast and billions of years old, or the view of science as is science without a theistic agenda nor qualifications.

Abiogenesis and evolution are sciences of physical processes without any assumptions nor conclusions concerning the existence of God, nor which religions is true."

Are you willing to accept science as science is concerning the nature of our physical existence?
So far, your view reflects the fundamentalist Christian view of 'Intelligent Design,' and the unique separate creation of humanity.

I didn't claim that one specific religion is correct, I represent my view that humans are
living in away completely different than the rest of the animals and no creature on
earth can be compared to him, I believe this was due to a plan and not coincidence,
the others may oppose me and explain their views and I do defend mine.

 

[shunyadragon]

I didn't claim that one specific religion is correct, . . . .

Did not say you did.

I represent my view that humans are
living in away completely different than the rest of the animals and no creature on
earth can be compared to him, I believe this was due to a plan and not coincidence,
the others may oppose me and explain their views and I do defend mine.

Science does not consider abiogenesis and evolution a product of random processes, coincidence, nor by chance.

Did not answer the questions. Still waiting . . .

 

[Thief]

There is absolutely no science in Genesis.

none sooooooo blind as they who will not see

 

[FearGod]

Did not say you did.



Science does not consider abiogenesis and evolution a product of random processes, coincidence, nor by chance.

Did not answer the questions. Still waiting . . .

Atheism in my opinion is much better than Bahaism, I respect science and I realize
that evolution is a fact, I believe it was planned to happen as it's.

 

[Shad]

If we give a million years for monkeys then they'll start to record their knowledge and have refrigerators and planes..etc or humans was made differently and hence lived a different
style of life than the rest of the animals?

No worries I saw the movies. I am prepared

 

[shunyadragon]

Atheism in my opinion is much better than Bahaism, I respect science and I realize. that evolution is a fact, I believe it was planned to happen as it's.

Atheists and Baha'is view science the same way, science is science as it is Atheists make the philosophical NAturalist assumption that God(s) do not exist.

Though, your hostility toward the Baha'i Faith is apparent.

 

[Bear Wild]

Atheism in my opinion is much better than Bahaism, I respect science and I realize
that evolution is a fact, I believe it was planned to happen as it's.

You are confusing. If you believe in evolution then you understand why humans are no more or less unique or special then any other form of life. So why do you make such a claim that humans are superior or more unique? Why do you say humans were planned when we were no more planned than any other living thing? If you understand evolution then there are patterns that are more selected for as exampled by convergent evolution but that is not the same as a planned direction. That is a concept of intelligent design not evolution.

 

[Milton Platt]

Still fish regardless of their sizes, but humans are unique.

A whale is not a fish.

 

[Thief]

If you believe in evolution then you understand why humans are no more or less unique or special then any other form of life.

this form in which we wander about.....
produces a unique spirit on each occasion

and you would have belief?......we are as primals