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Huge gap between humans and animals

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
But it wasn't always so! Don't you get that? And it wasn't "by God's will" that we obtained all that we have that makes life so much easier for us. That is complete nonsense - even IF God exists. And that kind of thinking belittles the efforts of all of the people who have gone before us and worked to make these conveniences a reality for the rest of us. Those who worked to make people's lives last longer. Worked to keep us out of the darkness and the cold. GOD DID NOT DO THESE THINGS. Humans did. And my appreciation for that is pointed in the RIGHT direction. Unlike yours... which may as well be pointed into a ditch.

Your way of thinking on this topic is disgraceful. Plain and simple.

Your thoughts is like saying how great are the computers and not the maker.

If humans weren't made to think and to work hard to achieve what they have achieved,
they'll never make life easier, that's the reason that humans are different than all other
animals on earth, regardless of time, animals weren't made to achieve anything.

Atheists oppose even clear facts that humans are far different than all animals
on earth just only to reject that God exists.
 
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FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
For those who think their earliest ancestors
were "Adam and Eve" a few thousanf years ago,
I wish there would be an aftrrlife so they can meet
their ancestors.

The hundreds of thousands of years of men and
women, whose joys, pains, struggles and sacrifices
made their life possible,!

How awful to say of them, "No, you never even existed."

What humans did before 10000 years ago, tell me
 

gnostic

The Lost One
What humans did before 10000 years ago, tell me

Before 10,000 years ago, for some parts of North America, Northern Europe and northern Asia, and pockets of areas, where the altitudes were high (eg the Swiss Alps, the Caucasus, the Himalayas and Tibetan plateau, the Andes, etc), ice sheets would cover these regions.

These people living in these regions would have live the nomadic lifestyle, of hunting and gathering. They would have to find and follow their preys, or else starve.

The glacial periods can last from anywhere between few thousands of years or hundred or more thousands of years.

But the ice age didn’t cover the whole Earth’s surfaces.

Even extensive regions that were not covered by ice sheets, suffered through cooler climates and long periods of droughts. The people in these regions would have lived lives as hunting and gathering nomads.

It was only when the last and most glacial period ended, after 10,000 years, that farming crops were made possible, and people can settled in more permanent settlements (eg villages, towns). They have also learned to make ceramic wares, in which they could store food and water. This was known as the Neolithic Revolution.

The earliest settlement in Jericho was one of the oldest town. This Jericho predated the supposed creation of Adam, by 4000 to 5000 years.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
ecco


Saying "GodDitIt" is not much of a defense of anything.


I don't think that they believed that God did lightning

THOR!

and other natural phenomena
PELE! (volcanoes)



otherwise
people should have challenged their prophets to ask God to make it rains ...etc

They didn't ask their prophets, they asked their god(s).

native-american-rain-dance.jpg





Have you forgotten that Pat Robertson ask his followers to pray to God to direct a hurricane to Disney because he was upset about Disney recognizing Gay Pride.
 
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Audie

Veteran Member
What humans did before 10000 years ago, tell me

The ate and slept, hunted fished made toold had
babies fought talked explored and, left bones,
flint tools, and otherwise acted like people!

I guess you are one who is so disrespectful
as to deny they ever existed?
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Your thoughts is like saying how great are the computers and not the maker.

If humans weren't made to think and to work hard to achieve what they have achieved,
they'll never make life easier, that's the reason that humans are different than all other
animals on earth, regardless of time, animals weren't made to achieve anything.

Atheists oppose even clear facts that humans are far different than all animals
on earth just only to reject that God exists.

If as is evidently the case going by your last sentence, you
have to concoct a ridiculous falsehood to support your
case, what does that say about you?
 

ecco

Veteran Member
I'm glad you made this analogy... it works so well against all that you have been saying so far - and, per usual, you don't even realize it.

I pose that it is EXACTLY as you describe. The computer is nearly WORTHLESS without the programs. It becomes a machine for pushing around low and high voltages. That's all. It does almost NOTHING.

And as a thought experiment to show how this also pretty much applies to humans, let's pretend for a moment that you are stranded on an ARCTIC deserted island. Being so much more ADVANCED than all the rest of the animal kingdom (as you claim), you should be FINE, right??! Take away all that you have due to your ancestors and forbears - take away the nice, tailored clothing and well-made fabrics, take away the leather shoes/boots that you're accustomed to wearing that YOU didn't make yourself, take away shelter and knowledge that has been passed on to you of how to use the materials around you to your advantage. You get NOTHING you didn't actually produce yourself or can be applied from knowledge you gained through your own experience in life so far. How do you think you'd fair? Just like the computer without a program to run on it - you'd find yourself nearly worthless. And you would very likely die in the cold.

Now let's imagine a penguin is stranded on that same arctic island...
It doesn't even have to the the extremes of the Arctic. Today's humans don't fare well in nature anywhere.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Before 10,000 years ago, for some parts of North America, Northern Europe and northern Asia, and pockets of areas, where the altitudes were high (eg the Swiss Alps, the Caucasus, the Himalayas and Tibetan plateau, the Andes, etc), ice sheets would cover these regions.

These people living in these regions would have live the nomadic lifestyle, of hunting and gathering. They would have to find and follow their preys, or else starve.

The glacial periods can last from anywhere between few thousands of years or hundred or more thousands of years.

But the ice age didn’t cover the whole Earth’s surfaces.

Even extensive regions that were not covered by ice sheets, suffered through cooler climates and long periods of droughts. The people in these regions would have lived lives as hunting and gathering nomads.

It was only when the last and most glacial period ended, after 10,000 years, that farming crops were made possible, and people can settled in more permanent settlements (eg villages, towns). They have also learned to make ceramic wares, in which they could store food and water. This was known as the Neolithic Revolution.

The earliest settlement in Jericho was one of the oldest town. This Jericho predated the supposed creation of Adam, by 4000 to 5000 years.

And what the people in Africa did 10000 years ago?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
The ate and slept, hunted fished made toold had
babies fought talked explored and, left bones,
flint tools, and otherwise acted like people!

I guess you are one who is so disrespectful
as to deny they ever existed?

That was great work.:rolleyes:
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
If as is evidently the case going by your last sentence, you
have to concoct a ridiculous falsehood to support your
case, what does that say about you?

My case doesn't need any support because it's the truth, humans are definitely have
different style of life than all animals on earth, humans are unique, but you refuse
such a fact to protect the nonsense that it happened without any pre-plans
 

Audie

Veteran Member
My case doesn't need any support because it's the truth, humans are definitely have
different style of life than all animals on earth, humans are unique, but you refuse
such a fact to protect the nonsense that it happened without any pre-plans

Nobody here has for a sevond denied that humans are unique.

Then you follow that obvious fact with two insulting
falsehoods.

Maybe you dont intend that, but it is how it comes out.

Physically, humans are not such a stand-out. Lots of
stranger animals out there.

Mentally, people have a clear edge over and land animal,
in certain regards at least. We get lost easily, but the
horse or dog knows its way home.

Withal, though, I will say we are smarter.

Whales and dolphins? Huge brain. They ard so
different though, comparison is difficult.

Humans are uniquely intelligent among all
land animals.

Nobody here will, or has, denied that.

WHAT are you even going on about?

It would not kill you to apologize for your
insult to my intelligence and motives.

Would it?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
ecco


Saying "GodDitIt" is not much of a defense of anything.




THOR!


PELE! (volcanoes)





They didn't ask their prophets, they asked their god(s).

native-american-rain-dance.jpg





Have you forgotten that Pat Robertson ask his followers to pray to God to direct a hurricane to Disney because he was upset about Disney recognizing Gay Pride.

Hurricane is a sample of a disaster, earthquakes and volcanoes are another sample of disasters,
Did you asked yourself why we don't have everyday disastrous earthquakes everywhere on this
planets, why we don't have disastrous hurricanes everyday and everywhere, is it just the work
of chance and coincident that we have some of these disastrous events.from one time to another.

Don't believe that God doesn't exist but no need to make excuses.
 

Audie

Veteran Member
Hurricane is a sample of a disaster, earthquakes and volcanoes are another sample of disasters,
Did you asked yourself why we don't have everyday disastrous earthquakes everywhere on this
planets, why we don't have disastrous hurricanes everyday and everywhere, is it just the work
of chance and coincident that we have some of these disastrous events.from one time to another.

Don't believe that God doesn't exist but no need to make excuses.
May we ask if English is your second language?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Nobody here has for a sevond denied that humans are unique.

Then you follow that obvious fact with two insulting
falsehoods.

Maybe you dont intend that, but it is how it comes out.

Physically, humans are not such a stand-out. Lots of
stranger animals out there.

Mentally, people have a clear edge over and land animal,
in certain regards at least. We get lost easily, but the
horse or dog knows its way home.

Withal, though, I will say we are smarter.

Whales and dolphins? Huge brain. They ard so
different though, comparison is difficult.

Humans are uniquely intelligent among all
land animals.

Nobody here will, or has, denied that.

WHAT are you even going on about?

It would not kill you to apologize for your
insult to my intelligence and motives.

Would it?

Finally, confession.
 
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