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Huge gap between humans and animals

Altfish

Veteran Member
The video doesn't work, copy rights
Anyway, did she explain why only humans have super brains, was it unbeneficial
for the rest of the animals, or just humans were luckier?
Yes, she did explain why our brains are bigger than other animals and how evolution caused that growth.
You still don't understand evolution, it isn't a matter of it being "unbeneficial for the rest of the animals" - you don't get to choose how your species evolves.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Yes, she did explain why our brains are bigger than other animals and how evolution caused that growth.
You still don't understand evolution, it isn't a matter of it being "unbeneficial for the rest of the animals" - you don't get to choose how your species evolves.

May I ask you why do you think our common ancestor failed to survive while humans and gorillas survived?
 

Altfish

Veteran Member
May I ask you why do you think our common ancestor failed to survive while humans and gorillas survived?
She explained that too. Not got time now but will explain when I do. I'll probably have to watch it again to make sure I get it right.
But basically, it was down to our brains again. The 'modern' humans migrating out of Africa had bigger brains than the Neanderthals that they encountered.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
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Premium Member
The video doesn't work, copy rights
Anyway, did she explain why only humans have super brains, was it unbeneficial
for the rest of the animals, or just humans were luckier?

The larger brains had to be paired with hands capable of using and making tools. One aspect of the great apes is their hands, which can manipulate objects much better than the paws of other species.

So, yes, it was not beneficial to have increased intelligence, which requires a lot of energy, if the payoff in tool use wasn't there.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
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Premium Member
It isn't so difficult to realize and to understand that humans are different than
the rest of the animals, not of terms of size, or food ..etc, but in terms of life itself,
many animals that walk on 4 legs, many animals that fly ...etc, no animal
think about what tasks to do for tomorrow or what the plans for this
year, only humans that have such amazing power of thinking and
the amazing ability of communication.

Squirrels plan for the future and can keep track of where they placed their stores of nuts. You are simply wrong about other animals not being able to plan. They just plan for things related to survival.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
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Premium Member
Good news then, you're evolving.
Individuals do not evolve. Populations do.


I explained to you how the insane person see the world around him and how the sane person
see the world around him, in easy words, the insane see all people around him as insane,
while the sane see the people around him as sane

Sorry, but that is clearly false. Many sane people see some others as insane. And many insane people see some others as sane.

But why was this even brought up?
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
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Premium Member
And what about angels, are they children of God?
What about Satan, is he God's child?


Show me an angel. I have yet to see any such being. Same with Satan.

I'll be clear. My belief is that both angels and Satan are myths. They are story characters with no basis in reality.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
The video doesn't work, copy rights
Anyway, did she explain why only humans have super brains, was it unbeneficial
for the rest of the animals, or just humans were luckier?
Our brains have certain capabilities that are superior to those of other animals, but some animals have certain mental abilities superior to ours.
Often the differences are more quantitative than qualitative.
Did chimps achieved anything on earth, no animal on earth is comparable to humans.
What do you mean by "achieve?" Who are what do man's achievements benefit?

Chimps achieved survival and an ecological place in the web of life.
It's beginning to look like our legacy will be a sixth mass extinction, if we don't blow ourselves up first. Our big brains may prove a singularly maladaptive feature.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It isn't so difficult to realize and to understand that humans are different than
the rest of the animals, not of terms of size, or food ..etc, but in terms of life itself,
many animals that walk on 4 legs, many animals that fly ...etc, no animal
think about what tasks to do for tomorrow or what the plans for this
year, only humans that have such amazing power of thinking and
the amazing ability of communication.
That's not true. Animals do plan and anticipate futurity.
The more we study animals the more similar to us they appear, and not just in terms of size. Chemically, genetically, physiologically and anatomically, we're all variations of a single, primordial pattern.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Well, it *did* survive, by evolving into us. It changed over time into new species.

It doesn't work like that, the common ancestor supposed to be in Africa, lets say
some immigrated and their children over time evolved to humans , and some other
group immigrated and their children evolved over time to gorillas ..etc, but what about
those who stayed in Africa, where have they gone?
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
It doesn't work like that, the common ancestor supposed to be in Africa, lets say
some immigrated and their children over time evolved to humans , and some other
group immigrated and their children evolved over time to gorillas ..etc, but what about
those who stayed in Africa, where have they gone?

Um, the gorillas are in Africa. They are the ones that stayed.
 

Valjean

Veteran Member
Premium Member
It doesn't work like that, the common ancestor supposed to be in Africa, lets say
some immigrated and their children over time evolved to humans , and some other
group immigrated and their children evolved over time to gorillas ..etc, but what about
those who stayed in Africa, where have they gone?
Why would they need to emigrate? Apes diverged and evolved right next to each other.
 

ecco

Veteran Member
Did you see how unique you're?

OK. You believe that God created everything and that humans are special because He created them special. That's no surprise to anyone who has read any of your 14,000 posts.

But, do you believe, even for an instant, that your religious based assertion has any impact on anyone or anything? Evolution occurred regardless of your opinion.

I understand why you choose to believe 5000 year old legends over the accumulated knowledge of mankind. That doesn't mean you are right, it just means that I understand. You can't change your beliefs any more than you could get milk from a bull.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
Staff member
Premium Member
But they aren't our common ancestor.

Right. The common ancestor species split into several species. One evolved into humans. Another evolved into gorillas, another into chimpanzees, etc.

Species change over time. Even a single species that does not split will often change dramatically over time because the surrounding environment changes.
 

Polymath257

Think & Care
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Premium Member
If all were in the same environment and same condition then what make
some to evolve to humans and others to gorillas ..etc

They aren't all in the same environment. Some moved into the savanna and away from the forests. Some took to the tops of the trees and not on the ground. Each developed the specialties of the specific niche they moved into.
 
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