Huge gap between humans and animals

[FearGod]

Right. The common ancestor species split into several species. One evolved into humans. Another evolved into gorillas, another into chimpanzees, etc.

Species change over time. Even a single species that does not split will often change dramatically over time because the surrounding environment changes.

Where're the fossils of the common ancestor which supposed lived for hundreds
of thousands of years if not millions while splitting and evolving?

 

[FearGod]

OK. You believe that God created everything and that humans are special because He created them special. That's no surprise to anyone who has read any of your 14,000 posts.

But, do you believe, even for an instant, that your religious based assertion has any impact on anyone or anything? Evolution occurred regardless of your opinion.

I understand why you choose to believe 5000 year old legends over the accumulated knowledge of mankind. That doesn't mean you are right, it just means that I understand. You can't change your beliefs any more than you could get milk from a bull.

Where did I say that evolution is false? I didn't

 

[Valjean]

If all were in the same environment and same condition then what make
some to evolve to humans and others to gorillas ..etc

Different ecological niches. When there are a variety of viable lifestyles, species diverge to take advantage of each.
Environmental change. As environmental conditions change, new niches emerge, and species evolve to take advantage of them. Others remain unchanged in isolated refugia.
Isolation. When different populations are geographically isolated, natural variation leads to speciation.

How else would you explain the many different apes that evolved in Africa?

 

[Polymath257]

Where're the fossils of the common ancestor which supposed lived for hundreds
of thousands of years if not millions while splitting and evolving?

Here's a link to *some* of the fossils:

Fossils

 

[FearGod]

Here's a link to *some* of the fossils:

Fossils

These fossils for homo and not the common ancestors.

 

[exchemist]

Where're the fossils of the common ancestor which supposed lived for hundreds
of thousands of years if not millions while splitting and evolving?

What does this mean? In order to speak of a common ancestor, you need to specify two modern day species. In other words, "common" to what?

 

[Polymath257]

These fossils for homo and not the common ancestors.

So you want something like this?

Fossil Reveals What Last Common Ancestor of Humans and Apes Looked Liked

 

[FearGod]

So you want something like this?

Fossil Reveals What Last Common Ancestor of Humans and Apes Looked Liked

From your article

Much remains unknown about the common ancestors of living apes and humans from the critical time when these branches diverged. Fossil evidence from this part of the primate family tree is scarce, and consists mostly of isolated teeth and broken jaw fragments. As such, researchers were not sure what the last common ancestors of living apes and humans might have looked like, and even whether they originated in Africa or Eurasia.

 

[Thief]

That is true, I will not argue but at the same time humans are dependent on all of the other unique life. We cannot live without even the simplest of bacteria. Our specialty is our intelligence and ability to manipulate things to our advantage far more than any other organisms, but the greatest mistake is to believe we are separate from all other life but we are intimately connected. Thus all life is unique and has its place in our world. It reminds me of what Alan Watts from the 1960's observed. The bee needs the flower for its nectar to live and the flower needs the bee to for pollination so they are separate and yet intimately connected so in one aspect the are one. The problem is not that we cannot enjoy our uniqueness we just cannot see ourselves as superior for that is a dangerous belief. We need to enjoy the uniqueness of all life.

i think you are crossing over.....unique....compared to.....different

I see no such thing as a bee that is unique
they are all the same

we on the other hand......are unique on each occasion

 

[ecco]

Where did I say that evolution is false? I didn't

Oh, OK. You believe in evolution. Good. Now explain why you have spent 29 pages of a thread you started arguing against evolution.

 

[FearGod]

Oh, OK. You believe in evolution. Good. Now explain why you have spent 29 pages of a thread you started arguing against evolution.

I believe it was pre-planned, IOW programmed to be so.

 

[exchemist]

From your article

Much remains unknown about the common ancestors of living apes and humans from the critical time when these branches diverged. Fossil evidence from this part of the primate family tree is scarce, and consists mostly of isolated teeth and broken jaw fragments. As such, researchers were not sure what the last common ancestors of living apes and humans might have looked like, and even whether they originated in Africa or Eurasia.

Well yes, the point of the quoted article is that researchers were not sure what the last common ancestor looked like, but now they have a much better idea.

So what is your point?

 

[FearGod]

Well yes, the point of the quoted article is that researchers were not sure what the last common ancestor looked like, but now they have a much better idea.

So what is your point?

And what is the better idea?

 

[exchemist]

And what is the better idea?

It is considered civil to answer a question asked of you, before going on to ask another yourself.

You tell me what point you are trying to make by quoting that passage, and then I'll tell you what the better idea of the appearance of the common ancestor is.

 

[FearGod]

It is considered civil to answer a question asked of you, before going on to ask another yourself.

You tell me what point you are trying to make by quoting that passage, and then I'll tell you what the better idea of the appearance of the common ancestor is.

The point is that the article doesn't show that we have fossils for the common ancestor,
it only assumes that it may looks like gibbon, your turn

 

[Polymath257]

The point is that the article doesn't show that we have fossils for the common ancestor,
it only assumes that it may looks like gibbon, your turn

Yes, it is known in this area that fossils from a certain time period are lacking for various reasons. This is common for evolution studies: speciation tends to happen in small regions with small populations, so we only see before and after fossils.

 

[Polymath257]

But what does this have to do with the original topic?

 

[exchemist]

The point is that the article doesn't show that we have fossils for the common ancestor,
it only assumes that it may looks like gibbon, your turn

Well it is evidence for a likely common ancestor. That is all that is claimed. We may have to wait another few years to get another piece of the jigsaw. But the age (13m yrs) is right, according to the back-calculation of the degree of divergence between human and chimp DNA. So we have a good idea where to place this fossil on the timeline.

 

[FearGod]

But what does this have to do with the original topic?

The point is that the uniqueness of the human being is planned for and not
the work of the collective chances of the stones.

 

[ecco]

I believe it was pre-planned, IOW programmed to be so.

Pre-planned or not, why do you argue against Common Descent?

Do you believe The Pre-Planner caused a meteor to strike the earth to wipe out the dinosaurs?