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Humans did NOT evolve from the common ancestor of Apes

Monk Of Reason

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I am a Christian who cannot discount the possibility that evolution is true. The Bible tells us that God created man from the dust of the ground. The Bible tells us that all living things were brought forth from the waters on the earth, and/or from the earth itself. The dust of the ground is earth. There is no Bible verse that even begins to suggest that man does not evolve. It tells us that each living creature that has come forth from the earth was brought forth after its own kind. And this is indeed true. No new living creature comes from another kind of creature. Every kind of creature is the same kind of creature as it's mother and father.
And this is a fully acceptable answer. I would like it more if you accepted evolution as true and rectified your faith with that but this position is still vastly better than the blind faith rejection of evidence.
 

Sonofason

Well-Known Member
And this is a fully acceptable answer. I would like it more if you accepted evolution as true and rectified your faith with that but this position is still vastly better than the blind faith rejection of evidence.
Perhaps I misunderstand your answer here. There is no conflict between my faith in God, the Bible and evolution. So I'm not really sure what you think needs rectification.
 

TheGuy90

New Member
Dear Readers, It is impossible for Humans to have evolved from the common ancestor of Apes since Humans were made long before ANY other living creature. Adam, the common ancestor of ALL Humans was made the THIRD Day. Gen 2:4-7 Jesus made Adam of the dust of the ground BEFORE the first Stars of our Universe put forth their light on the FOURTH Day. Gen 1:16

This means that the common ancestor of Apes, on our Earth, lived Billions of years AFTER Adam, the first Human was made, according to Scripture. God Bless you.

In Love,
Aman

your argument is invalid on its very base since the bible contradicts itself on the order of when man was created

Man was created after the other animals
Gen 1:25,26,27
Man was created before the other animals
Gen 2:18,19
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
hey Sonofason,
May I call you Son....??
As to the statement:
" Every kind of creature is the same kind of creature as it's mother and father"
who were the parents of a donkey. Why can't it mate ?
I've always been confused by this situation, 'splain it to me.
~
'mud
 

Sapiens

Polymathematician
hey Sonofason,
May I call you Son....??
As to the statement:
" Every kind of creature is the same kind of creature as it's mother and father"
who were the parents of a donkey. Why can't it mate ?
I've always been confused by this situation, 'splain it to me.
~
'mud
Every kind of creature is NOT the same kind of creature as it's mother and father. Every creature is an intermediate between the kind of creature it's mother and father were and the kind of creature its offspring will be.

Donkeys can mate, I think you meant mules, the offspring of a male donkey and a female horse. Horses and donkeys are different species, with different numbers of chromosomes that produce viable but sterile offspring.
 

`mud

Just old
Premium Member
hey Sapiens,
I don't think I should call you Sap, should I...:cool:
You are absolutely right, without a doubt, forever and ever.
I must be a mule to have posted that without thinking about it first,
but sometimes I don't even try to think, where's my glasses !
~
'mud
 

Ben West

Member
I can easily define it for you. But you probably have your own personal definition of Christian that isn't widely accepted. Similarly there are individuals who have different definitions that are also different than yours. But for the general definition it is a classification of people who believe Jesus was the son of god and typically follow a religion that ascribes to his teachings to one degree or another.

Your personal definition of Christian is probably anyone who believes exactly as you do.

Well you can call non-fundies phonies all you want but in reality it is either a more liberal acceptance of Christianity and its teachings or its simply flat out wrong. I don't think they felt comfortable with the idea that their faith was easily disproved.

Dear Monk, It matters very little HOW I define a Christian since God defines a Christian as:

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His.

Christians are those who have been born again Spiritually in Christ, no matter how many "supposed" scholars tell you of another way. God Bless you
 

Ben West

Member
I am a Christian who cannot discount the possibility that evolution is true. The Bible tells us that God created man from the dust of the ground. The Bible tells us that all living things were brought forth from the waters on the earth, and/or from the earth itself. The dust of the ground is earth. There is no Bible verse that even begins to suggest that man does not evolve. It tells us that each living creature that has come forth from the earth was brought forth after its own kind. And this is indeed true. No new living creature comes from another kind of creature. Every kind of creature is the same kind of creature as it's mother and father.

Dear Son, Not quite. Humans were a Special Creation made Billions or years BEFORE any other living creature. Adam did NOT evolve or change within his kind because Adam was FIRST made. Gen 2:4-7 God Bless you
 

Ben West

Member
And this is a fully acceptable answer. I would like it more if you accepted evolution as true and rectified your faith with that but this position is still vastly better than the blind faith rejection of evidence.

Dear Monk, False teaching since Adam, the first Human, did NOT evolve, Gen 2:4-7 as he was made Billions of years BEFORE any other creature.
 

Ben West

Member
your argument is invalid on its very base since the bible contradicts itself on the order of when man was created

Man was created after the other animals
Gen 1:25,26,27
Man was created before the other animals
Gen 2:18,19

Dear Guy, Adam was "formed" some 10 Billion years BEFORE any other living creature. Adam was "created" in God's Image or in Christ Spiritually AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2
 

Ben West

Member
Please show us measurable, empirical, evidence of this.

Dear Quater, Adam was made the 3rd Day, which was the SAME Day as the Big Bang or beginning of our Cosmos. Gen 2:4-7

I would show you empirical evidence of this but that would require that some Godless scientist present a peer reviewed account....BUT...that won't happen until the Bumpkins discover God's Truth in Genesis.
 

Monk Of Reason

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Dear Monk, It matters very little HOW I define a Christian since God defines a Christian as:

Rom 8:9 But ye are not in the flesh, but in the Spirit, if so be that the Spirit of God dwell in you. Now if any man have not the Spirit of Christ, he is none of His.

Christians are those who have been born again Spiritually in Christ, no matter how many "supposed" scholars tell you of another way. God Bless you
Yet the subjective qualifications for that title are still muddled in opinion.
 

Mycroft

Ministry of Serendipity
Dear Quater, Adam was made the 3rd Day, which was the SAME Day as the Big Bang or beginning of our Cosmos. Gen 2:4-7

I would show you empirical evidence of this but that would require that some Godless scientist present a peer reviewed account....BUT...that won't happen until the Bumpkins discover God's Truth in Genesis.

The Bible isn't evidence, however.
 

shawn001

Well-Known Member
Dear Guy, Adam was "formed" some 10 Billion years BEFORE any other living creature. Adam was "created" in God's Image or in Christ Spiritually AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2

He doesn't get the solar system didn't at 10 billion years.
Dear Guy, Adam was "formed" some 10 Billion years BEFORE any other living creature. Adam was "created" in God's Image or in Christ Spiritually AFTER Cain killed Abel. Gen 5:1-2


Where he come up with that number is pretty funny. He also doesn't know our solar system hadn't formed yet.



First that would make Adam, billion of years old. Maybe he means atoms? ;)


Don't see him in the pictures floating through space until the solar system formed 5 billion years later, not to mention what was he breathing. ;)

Hubble Ultra Deep Field 10 Billion Years


 

Ben West

Member
Evidence?

Dear Monk, Below is the best and only evidence due to "willingly ignorant" scientists:

Gen 2:4-7 shows that on the Day that Jesus made Adam's Earth (3rd Day) and another two Heavens or Universes, but BEFORE He made the plants and herbs of Adam's Earth, He formed Adam like a potter molds the clay.

Each of God's Days/Ages is some 4.5 Billion years in length in man's time. This means that Adam lived for more than 10 Billion years BEFORE God brought life forth from the water on the 5th Day Gen 1:21 which began some 3.77 Billion years ago, in man's time.
 
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