Hypothetical question for those who believe in hell :

[Me Myself]

Anyone? No?

Seems most hell believers people are more compassionate than the god they believe in, which I think its a good start.

 

[Me Myself]

Wow, wait...

Looking at it again, its currently a tie, because I substract two from the would have thems as in the comments they said otherwise after fully understanding the question.

 

[Parsimony]

I most certainly would not.

 

[Me Myself]

I most certainly would not.

Do you believe in eternal hell? Do you believe God knows before hand what are the choices of his children going to be?

 

[GawdAweful]

Should have read the thread title again since I don't believe in a literal, eternal hell. I do, however, believe in a judgement that continues after death. If that judgement was to be any type of eternal torment, the answer is a definitive 'no'.

 

[Parsimony]

Do you believe in eternal hell? Do you believe God knows before hand what are the choices of his children going to be?

I have my doubts about the existence of the classical Hell. This is partly for the logical problems it poses (as you no doubt intended to point out with this thread) and the lack of an eternal Hell concept in Judaism.

 

[Me Myself]

Should have read the thread title again since I don't believe in a literal, eternal hell. I do, however, believe in a judgement that continues after death. If that judgement was to be any type of eternal torment, the answer is a definitive 'no'.

Yeah I also believe in judgement after dead ( though to me, it is merely a continuation of the judgement during life).

The eternal part of the question is vital to the answer of this poll indeed. Thanks for clarifying then

 

[thau]

And I keep that phrase to mean what it meant.

You are free to believe a being who willfully accepted that some of his childs will be tortured for ever even though he could have avoided all their pain and still didn't choose to is the paramount of morality.

Trust on that as much as you must. I find my version far more trustable, but hey, I know you won't change your mind by my opinion, and am sure as non-hell ( ) that you won't change mine because your book says differently.

Is this singular question not the crux of the whole matter? More specifically, is this not the one trump card unbelievers cling to as unassailable?

I understand the impossibility for man to accept such a fate, i.e. eternal punishment. But for me this is the only place where faith is truly needed. All other matters are of little concern and of great joy.

So to sum, I know all that I need to know because God has been most generous to me in His revelations. I know and I rest in peace. What I do not know (how can eternal hell be for some men?) I simply trust God is far superior to my way of understanding. The proper truth will be known in the proper time, most likely not until the next world.

To echo the words of John Henry Cardinal Newman, “ten thousand difficulties do not make one doubt.” I wholeheartedly agree.

 

[Pastek]

Let´s say God tells you that your next child (that you want with all your love to have) with the wo/man you love will definetely go to hell at the end of it´s life.

Will you have that child? Knowing that s/he would spent eternity in hell after s/he dies?

No. I can adopt an other one

 

[allright]

Let´s say God tells you that your next child (that you want with all your love to have) with the wo/man you love will definetely go to hell at the end of it´s life because s/he would make all the bad choices. Let´s say he is telling you this so you can choose wheter you want to concieve him/her or not.

Will you have that child? Knowing that s/he would spent eternity in hell after s/he dies?

btw, answers are public.

Definitely not

 

[Sees]

I don't know how you could have a child if you knew for sure that he'd be going to a eternal, torturing hell. That is just terribly, terribly sad. Why would you torture yourself with this?

Major psychological issues at hand for those who believe in hell and say yes...or maybe misunderstanding.

Maybe some feel god will be pleased with them for having more souls to feed the fire?

Or that the soul will burn whether it is born as a human or not? And this way it at least gets to experience a short life of love? I can kind of see this fitting with those who are big on predestination.

 

[SkylarHunter]

Personally I don't believe in hell but I voted no. As a parent I would never want my child to suffer, much less forever.

 

[SkylarHunter]

Major psychological issues at hand for those who believe in hell and say yes...or maybe misunderstanding.

Or that the soul will burn whether it is born as a human or not? And this way it at least gets to experience a short life of love? I can kind of see this fitting with those who are big on predestination.

I have a question. Those who believe in hell believe that there is this a spiritual soul that lives after physical death. If the soul doesn't have a human body how can it burn with fire?

 

[Sees]

I have a question. Those who believe in hell believe that there is this a spiritual soul that lives after physical death. If the soul doesn't have a human body how can it burn with fire?

Easy, Spiritual fire lol

 

[Me Myself]

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I know and I rest in peace. .

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Its so nice of you to rest in peace with the idea that millions are tortured endlessly.

 

[SkylarHunter]

easy, spiritual fire lol

lolololol

 

[thau]

Its so nice of you to rest in peace with the idea that millions are tortured endlessly.

So besides you demanding God account for Himself how he can have a hell for certain creatures... if it were not for that one thing, are you telling me that you would be right there with me giving thanks and praise to God for everything else?

 

[Me Myself]

So besides you demanding God account for Himself how he can have a hell for certain creatures... if it were not for that one thing, are you telling me that you would be right there with me giving thanks and praise to God for everything else?

I find fault in your way to count.

Each person being tortured endlessly accounts for an infinite amount of "things" wrong with such a demonic God concept.

 

[thau]

I find fault in your way to count.

Each person being tortured endlessly accounts for an infinite amount of "things" wrong with such a demonic God concept.

Fine, I understand your point and it is a question no one can ever provide a satisfactory answer for you this side of the grave. But the Church, I assume, takes the Word in Scripture on its most apparent face description, yet I do not believe there are any sanctioned teachings that declare a “lost soul” is tormented endlessly for ever and ever. There may be things we cannot understand the true meaning of (as God clearly says time and again in the Bible) because The Church does not claim to know specifics about hell any more than they claim to know about heaven.

It may very well be some “undeserving” soul is blotted out of existence instead of enduring pain. Would that bring you any closer to accepting such a deity? Or do you insist He put us all into eternal bliss immediately and forever, which would preclude any test or honor or sacrifice or effort on our part, or the ability to choose? I am curious?

 

[Me Myself]

Fine, I understand your point and it is a question no one can ever provide a satisfactory answer for you this side of the grave. But the Church, I assume, takes the Word in Scripture on its most apparent face description, yet I do not believe there are any sanctioned teachings that declare a “lost soul” is tormented endlessly for ever and ever. There may be things we cannot understand the true meaning of (as God clearly says time and again in the Bible) because The Church does not claim to know specifics about hell any more than they claim to know about heaven.

It may very well be some “undeserving” soul is blotted out of existence instead of enduring pain. Would that bring you any closer to accepting such a deity? Or do you insist He put us all into eternal bliss immediately and forever, which would preclude any test or honor or sacrifice or effort on our part, or the ability to choose? I am curious?

I dont have any need for immidiately and I dont see any merit on passing any test on any ultimate or important sense.

You wish to give it such merit, you are free to do so.

Catholic church does not meet my standards in more than one account.