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"I Heard You Mormons...."

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Apples and Oranges, BalanceFX.

Spiritual evidence comes through faith and the Holy Spirit.

Pictures are physical evidence and, yes, they can be photoshopped.
 

J Bryson

Well-Known Member
I heard you Mormons drink lemonade and milk, and play board games with your families on Friday nights. Weirdos!:D
 

Sententia

Well-Known Member
Apples and Oranges, BalanceFX.

Spiritual evidence comes through faith and the Holy Spirit.

Pictures are physical evidence and, yes, they can be photoshopped.

I dont get the argument... Because there is no proof at all for gold plates and they are only accepted on faith they cant be photoshopped and therefore are real?

Im not sure you get what faith means. (Also I deny the holy spirit (Actively) but you might be the one to prove this holy spirit thingy to me)
 

SoyLeche

meh...
Wait... Gold plates spirited to heaven... no pics... no proof... like text and hear say...

Granted I admire the skeptism... but I wonder if you know what your implying...

What if you just have faith in the pics... Invoking Photoshop even as a possiblilty would be almost as a blasphemous as saying we used words to lie about plates of gold.

I dunno. I guess I find it almost disingenuous to hear a mormon question standards of evidence. (And at the same time hopeful?)
Speaking as someone who, I am fairly certian, has studied the early years of Mormonism more than you have, coupled with personal spiritual experiences, I can say that I am comfortable with the evidence. You may not be, but there's not much I can do about that.

I'm also willing to accept that if someone says they have seen black Mormons then they have seen black Mormons without needing photographic evidence. Of course, I've also seen black Mormons* myself...

Anyway, I'm assuming the whole photographic evidence thing was requested tounge-in-cheek, which is how I meant to respond to it.

*they are under-represented though. I've lived in cities where there are roughly 50% white and black, but the LDS congregations are 90% white. That's not really all that surprising, but will hopefully continue to improve over time. I've also lived in places that are 90% white and had a black people in high leadership positions. I didn't notice that anyone had any problems with that.
 

Smoke

Done here.
Yeah. Who would want to give up coffee? It's only the best drink there ever was..
I couldn't give it up, because I was never able to acquire the habit. It would be a nice one to have in some ways, because every now and then you find yourself at some event where nobody has thought to provide any other kind of beverage, but I just hate the taste of it. Oddly enough, I enjoy the smell.
 

Katzpur

Not your average Mormon
Are Mormons in general forbidden or discouraged from seeing "R" rated movies, or just a personal thing?
Many of my favorite movies are 'R'-rated, but then I'm kind of a renegade, as we all know. I hate movies that contain gratuitous sex and violence or excessive foul language, but I think the Hollywood rating system is such a joke that I prefer to do my own research on the content of a movie and then decide for myself whether it would be something that would be worthwhile for me to see.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
It's been a long time since I've heard anything against R rated movies. Now the line is to be careful of what we watch regardless of the rating.

As for me, I'll be seeing Watchmen this weekend.
 

Watchmen

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
I dont get the argument... Because there is no proof at all for gold plates and they are only accepted on faith they cant be photoshopped and therefore are real?

No. That's not what I'm saying. I'm saying spiritual knowledge and scientific knowledge are learned different ways. The spiritual cannot be learned through the scientific and the scientific cannot be learned through the spiritual.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
It's been a long time since I've heard anything against R rated movies. Now the line is to be careful of what we watch regardless of the rating.
Personally, I've got more of a problem with the sort of PG movie where a nameless guy gets shot and bloodlessly falls out of frame never to be heard of again than an R-rated movie like Reservoir Dogs, where a character gets shot in the stomach and spends the next 20 minutes of the movie screaming in pain, bleeding all over the back seat of a car. It bothers me when violence is considered more suitable for children because it's detached from its consequences.

... but I think I'm getting off-topic.
 

SoyLeche

meh...
This thread has been off topic for a long while. Was it always in "General Religious Debates"? I thought it was started as a fun "people believe that mormons believe things they don't actually belive" thread, not as a debate thread :shrug:
 

DarkMaster24

Active Member
I couldn't give it up, because I was never able to acquire the habit. It would be a nice one to have in some ways, because every now and then you find yourself at some event where nobody has thought to provide any other kind of beverage, but I just hate the taste of it. Oddly enough, I enjoy the smell.

Really? I've never really met anyone who didn't like coffee. I couldn't see my life with out coffee, I drink it in the mornings to wake up, and it helps me with staying up for late night studying. Have you ever tried coffee with Coffee Mate? It tastes heavanly then and you might like it. (that is if you haven't tried it allready)
 

DarkMaster24

Active Member
It's been a long time since I've heard anything against R rated movies. Now the line is to be careful of what we watch regardless of the rating.

As for me, I'll be seeing Watchmen this weekend.

Sweetness. I'm hoping to see it something, allthough I may not to seeing as it's hard to get to the theater on the buses where I live and I've got no one to take me. Have fun with the movie.
 
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