If Devout Jews rule Israel: Should Shabbath breakers be killed?

[Tumah]

Look, it doesn't matter what we are talking about, to kill someone over the Sabbath is wrong, simple as that, no excuse whatsoever.

Whether I agree or not, it doesn't matter. No one's getting killed.
ou're trying to say no one should be killed in any case... and no one is getting killed in any case.

 

[Servant_of_the_One1]

You are Muslim
And you want to criticize the Torah in this Education
OK
If the teachings of the Torah wrong
The question of why Muhammad took them ??
Christ told us
If you want to take out the straw from your brother's eye
Then you take out the straw that in your eye
Christ was clear
He considered all the laws of the Torah especially to the people of Israel
He said it's not valid
So I guess that Christ was better than Muhammad
Because he paid with his life to his positions
If your home is made of glass not designed people with stones
Jewish that he considers himself God's chosen people
And the Jews did not accept any creature that shared in this God
But Christ said that it is God to all peoples
That is until people accept his message
Declared his opposition to the laws of the Torah
In humanitarian law, but he accepted the spiritual lawGospel and what it supports my words this
Including Saturday
Samaritan also
The AED widow
There are other positions to Christ prove that he disagreed with the scholars of the Jews
Is Mohammed canceled these teachings from the Koran?
The answer is no
Mohammed made from the teachings of the killing of the apostate and other fixed
And Mohammed also declared that Islam is best UN
I think that the words of Christ apply to you, my friend

I knew u cant answer the question.

 

[psychoslice]

Whether I agree or not, it doesn't matter. No one's getting killed.
ou're trying to say no one should be killed in any case... and no one is getting killed in any case.

Well that is good, so no one is killed for not keeping the Sabbath ?.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Look, it doesn't matter what we are talking about, to kill someone over the Sabbath is wrong, simple as that, no excuse whatsoever.

Yes Christ rejected the law of Saturday
There is talk of Christ in this context

 

[psychoslice]

Yes Christ rejected the law of Saturday
There is talk of Christ in this context

Yes the story of Jesus brought love into the scriptures, unlike the old testament with all of its psychotic crap.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

I knew u cant answer the question.

I made you answer
Which he rejected all calls for the education of murder
And this position is based on the Gospel
What do you want more of these obvious answer
But why take such teachings of Islam
Christianity
Taken from the Torah
The following teachings
It is the Ten Commandments
But Christ completed the first commandment
Connect it to a love of God with love of people
I hope that the decline in the words of the survey in his refusal to teach on Saturday

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Yes the story of Jesus brought love into the scriptures, unlike the old testament with all of its psychotic crap.

My friend
Christ was no Abrania he was a Jew
But he refused to teach on Saturday
And his position clear in the Gospel
And Christ also announced
The first love of education rights equally with the love of God
Man does not like to Aeetmkn of the knowledge of God
Islam says that man is the enemy of God, the infidel
God has enemies
Islam does not know love, and trying to provide justification to the teachings of the Koran

 

[psychoslice]

My friend
Christ was no Abrania he was a Jew
But he refused to teach on Saturday
And his position clear in the Gospel
And Christ also announced
The first love of education rights equally with the love of God
Man does not like to Aeetmkn of the knowledge of God
Islam says that man is the enemy of God, the infidel
God has enemies
Islam does not know love, and trying to provide justification to the teachings of the Koran

Well that is more or less what I am saying.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

First of all, that wasn't an answer. It was a request for clarification.
Second of all, the answer depends on when you're talking about.
If you're talking about "now", the answer is "nothing." We have no ability to enforce Torah rule.
If you're talking about in the Messianic Age, then there would be no evil inclination to cause someone to break the Sabbath in the first place.
So you see, it does make a difference whether you're talking about now or during the Messianic Age, since the answer would be different.

I respect the Torah
But some of the provisions of the Torah especially the Jewish people
It is not valid to others
Because the Jewish religion is a private religion of the Jewish people
But you are a Jew you know these words well

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Well that is more or less what I am saying.

Thank you

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

I knew u cant answer the question.

You damage and revolves around a certain point
But I made you a clear answer to your first question
And now he favors and gave us a second question
I am also the oldest answer

 

[psychoslice]

Thank you

Ha !!.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

Are u saying there was injustice and backwardism in Torah?
Then God made 180degrees turn in Gospel:allowing homosexuality, apostates , sabbath breakers??


Am i getting this right.

So God was wrong in Torah, and right in Gospel?

You want the Christian concept that Christ is God or the Son of God
But you can write a special subject
But I tell you

 

[The Emperor of Mankind]

Seriously. Do you think a God who created the universe would give any thought at all to someone picking up sticks on a certain day of the week, much less demanding that His people take rocks and crush his skull? What kind of person could do such a thing and think he was doing it for a righteous God?

The same sort of person who believes a god created the universe would give any thought at all to someone being sexually intimate with somebody of the same sex; to the level that this god has, in the past, demanded said people be put to death.

The sad thing is there's scriptural references to both these things.

Just to be clear; I'm not having a go at your position or at your incredulity. I'm just answering your rhetorical question

 

[Jumi]

When the Messiah comes a new and everlasting covenant will be established.

Do you think on that day if it arrives, people will be massacred by the billion using stones and swords?

 

[Jedster]

Do you think on that day if it arrives, people will be massacred by the billion using stones and swords?

I went to a Jewish orthodox school and was taught that when the Messiah does come,there will be automatic peace on Earth....for everyone.

No killing etc

 

[Tumah]

I respect the Torah
But some of the provisions of the Torah especially the Jewish people
It is not valid to others
Because the Jewish religion is a private religion of the Jewish people
But you are a Jew you know these words well

I'm not 100% sure I understand everything you are saying, but as a Jew I believe all the "provisions" of the Torah are only meant for the Jewish people.
That's why it was given to Jews.

 

[David1967]

Well, atheists believe only they are smart and religionists are fools.

I disagree with how Atheists think.


I think Jews should admit without fearing bullying atheists,

No friend. A person having religion does not In and of itself make him a fool. But a person who kills in the name of his god is both a fool and a murderer.

 

[Useless2015]

I hope those backward thinking days have gone.

Indeed cause now we live in a much better world.Nowadays you get killed for being born in the wrong place. What a wonderful world

 

[rosends]

Well that is good, so no one is killed for not keeping the Sabbath ?.

Today, no one is killed because the system to do so doesn't exist.
When the system exists, no one who is required to will not keep the Sabbath.
So either way, no killing.