Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Perhaps you only think you are stuck on some wheel you need to get off of.
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If "everything is energy" then what does this mean?
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Perhaps you only think you are stuck on some wheel you need to get off of.
godnotgod
Thou art That
No, your legalistic black and white Buddhism needs to be shut down! You sit on your paper machete throne and pontificate in the name of Buddhism, freely condemning this and that and all else that disagrees with your dead Buddhism, while ignoring what is shown to you right under your nose, such as the quote from the Buddha himself, plainly proving you wrong, and still you persist, like a radio that has a broken OFF button, and that can only be fixed by smashing it to bits.
Here's a little gift for you:
Ben Dhyan
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The wheel of suffering is a Buddhist metaphor for karma and reincarnation....a perpetual rat race.. I am of no doubt as to the reality of karma and reincarnation..
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godnotgod
Thou art That
godnotgod
Thou art That
His frustration is a signal that he has literally reached the end of his wits, and his conceptual framework about to burst. But that's a good thing....and a very powerful Zen thing. There's no place left for the conceptual mind to find solace.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Just another idea that you cling to. You are too desperate for mystical woo.
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Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Sorry about your dilemma. I hope one day you realize it was entirely by your own choice. It was only your mind that was stuck.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
There has been an awful lost of nonsense spouted on this thread about non-duality. It's actually very practical, it's being fully in the present, having let go of beliefs ABOUT the present. Beliefs like Brahman, God, cosmic consciousness, ultimate reality, absolute this and absolute that, blah, blah, pretentious tripe.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
How true!
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
...and he obviously has not heard the Buddha saying.... "directing anger at another is like picking up a hot coal to throw at the perceived enemy...it may or may not hit the target, but it will most certainly burn the one that holds it".... ...anger management Rico..
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
No, you're just making it up as you go along. Trying to "downgrade" awakening so you can claim it.
Ben Dhyan
Veteran Member
What dilemma are you talking about?
Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Good reply. There should be no dilemma.
godnotgod
Thou art That
Are you now accusing the Buddha of pandering pretentious tripe?
O bhikkhus, what is the Absolute (Asamkhata, Unconditioned)? It is, O bhikkhus, the extinction of desire, the extinction of hatred, the extinction of illusion. This, O bhikkhus, is called the Absolute.
Spiney, you are now sounding like an out of control hothead with a knee jerk hair trigger. Have you literally gone mad? What is wrong with you? Why do you ignore what the Buddha said about the Absolute? Is it that you have so much invested in your belief system that to go back now would be unthinkable? Think of the consequences of continuing to pursue what is now shown to you be be obviously in error. Just admit that you were wrong, and that will be that.
godnotgod
Thou art That
godnotgod
Thou art That
You're a good man, RW. Time for you to take a refreshing break. Go ahead. Take Five. You deserve it.
While I obviously disagree with your theory, I admire your tenacity.
Mind is all about that. However accepting a true basis for the mind/thoughts is not nonsense.
Saying "I know the truth that there is no true basis for anything", is nonsense. It is rejecting the very basis of all truth claims, whether they are of sense or of non sense.
Rejecting the true basis of gnosis means that your own claims of knowledge of truth has no value. In that case science is useless, meditation is useless and that amounts to Nihilism.
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Runewolf1973
Materialism/Animism
Yes, just realize that the conceptual is nothing more than the conceptual...that the illusion is nothing more than an illusion. No need to banish it all in some nihilistic fashion. One can still find uselfulness in duality, just realize it for what it is. That is freedom from delusion.
Can we use phrases such as "I believe..." or "My teacher teaches ....". Else it seems that what you say is the only concept free truth.
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godnotgod
Thou art That
You know, Spiney, what has become painfully obvious from long-term exposure to your posts, is that you are using your Buddhism as a shield, as you feel somehow threatened by all other views that you perceive as deceptive or fraudulent. This is very typical of Christians and Muslims, for example, who feel an insecure need to protect their beliefs from what they feel are Satanic attacks from the 'outside' world. Essentially, this is the ego protecting itself from destruction, because, of course, the ego wants to go on in perpetuity, and hiding behind some kind of authority like Buddhism, or God, or whatever authority works is a way of providing official credibility to its existence.
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