Is it realistic? Is it within the realm of possibility, of course it is. The puppy could chose not to eat the steak. Is the possibility slim? Yes. But still, it could happen.
The fact is the puppy doesn't understand english. Much as Adam and Eve didn't understand the difference between right and wrong "before" eating the apple. Did we decide to create ourselves without the ability to understand what was right or wrong? Think about the implications of that and what that means. Before you respond.... Really.... Think about it...
The concepts of right and wrong did not exist before they ate the fruit. Adam and Eve created the concepts of right and wrong. God didn't. Do saying that they didn't know what was right and what was wrong is beside the point because the concepts didn't exist until Adam and Eve made them. That's the whole point.
Yeah exactly. God wouldn't of messed up. So he did throw the baseball. He knew fully well how we would respond to the surrounding environment and he had preplanned a punishment for us that is the equivalent of the US nuking the entire world for some guy named Bill killing an Eagle in Asia somewhere. This is rational to you? :clap
Preplanned the punishment...okay. Because the concepts of right and wrong did not exist before Adam and Eve made them, God didn't preplan the punishment. He wasn't waiting like a spider waiting for the fly to get stuck in the web. He judged Adam and Eve by their own standards, not his.
And no, it's not rational, but I don't see your point. You're comparing apples and oranges.
Choice comes from knowledge. We had no knowledge of what was right or wrong. God made the Earth, God made 2 brainless humans, God made the snake, God ran away, God created the tree, God created us with the ability to succomb to temptation, God created man with an inherent weakness to succomb to a womans desire. Yet because we were just there responding to our environment in the only way we knew how you think were at fault? Brainwashed much? Going to a meeting that tells you were in the wrong 1 to 2 times a week would imply you are in fact brainwashed and therefore unable to hold any logical conversation. Drop the Church and the Bible for 5 years, start thinking for yourself, make up your mind, then come talk to us.
'Yet because we were just there responding to our environment in the only way we knew how you think were at fault?'
At fault? What do you mean by that? All I mean is that we ate the fruit. We did the deed, no one else. But when asked, we blamed it on someone else. It was their fault. They made us do it. Now we blame God. Wow. We're really moving up in the ranks, eh?
You seem to be hanging this giant, foreboding storm cloud over claiming responsibility for something. Why?
Of course seeing as I am talking to a guy that believes in talking snakes and powerful apples, but thinks the Bible isn't really Gods word, makes your arguments pretty ignorable by both sides Christian and Atheist alike.
The Bible was written by man if you didn't know, so it's not God's word. I thought you knew that already...
Regardless, Do i believe in talking animals? If you show me one, sure I'll believe in them. Not until then. Powerful apples? I like apples. I think they taste good. I'm sure they have lots of good nutrients in them. But I'd never described them as 'powerful'.
As for your last sentence:
Jesus replied, "Foxes have holes and birds of the air have nests, but the Son of Man has no place to lay his head."
Luke 9:58
