But it's OK for women to commit violence against you?
I've a big problem with the idea that one gender is
sacred, & the other is just chopped liver.
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Incel What is it?
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I've a big problem with the idea that one gender is
sacred, & the other is just chopped liver.
Go back to bed, you seem confused today.
We are talking the very few percent who are incel, nay, the very very few who are mass murderers. Not all males
Justanatheist
Well-Known Member
No it is not OK, would I hit her to stop her, no.
PoetPhilosopher
Veteran Member
If a woman punches you, it's not really the same as a man punching you, though. Men have a lot more strength
I admit to skipping part of the OP.
But I still detect some gender tribalism here.
Demonize all incels...& only males....because of the
act of one crazed killer. If this is to be the sole theme
of the thread, & larger issues are to be eschewed,
then so be it.
Are you actually arguing that women should be
able to commit violence against men, & that
defending oneself is wrong?
Also, is this digression even permitted in this thread?
Will it lead to accusations of whatabouterie?
Is a new thread appropriate?
Justanatheist
Well-Known Member
Been hit over the head with a bottle of scotch and a glass ashtray, got the scars to prove it, did I hit her back, not a chance, loved her to bits
PoetPhilosopher
Veteran Member
You don't want to support incels, though. I've met the non-violent ones.
If you do, I agree with @ChristineM - you might want a bit more sleep.
Kooky
Freedom from Sanity
That would depend a lot on the woman or man in question, wouldn't it? I imagine that Gina Carano's left hook would be a lot more dangerous than Joe Biden's, to pull an arbitrary example out of my head.
That said, I don't know if that's what I would consider an appropriate response to being hit by an ashtray.Been hit over the head with a bottle of scotch and a glass ashtray, got the scars to prove it, did I hit her back, not a chance, loved her to bits
PoetPhilosopher
Veteran Member
I oppose unprovoked violence without exception,
whether man against man, man against woman,
woman against woman, woman against man...
anyone against anyone.
Agree or disagree?
Justanatheist
Well-Known Member
This thread is prompted by what happened in Plymouth England on Thursday night, see non discussion thread in current events. Still trying to get an understanding of why it happened and who/what incel are.
I wonder now if I'm one of the few actually awake,
an initial mis-step notwithstanding.
Yes, that event is now clear.
PoetPhilosopher
Veteran Member
The whole reason I'm so worried about the strength of a punch, is just because a few punches have been known to kill people. Don't assume I mean more than what I do either, though.
Justanatheist
Well-Known Member
I suppose skipping items of importance can have that effect later in the day.
I caution against unwarranted presumptions too.
Violence is a far broader issue than punching,
& includes equalizers.
PoetPhilosopher
Veteran Member
Since you're painting it in black and white terms, you're leaving me to say "I disagree as there are additional nuances".
But that's a trap of a question as it depicts your beliefs as a moral high ground, trying to get me to disagree like I disagree with basic ethics.
It's like saying "All killing is wrong." without factoring in a soldier trying to help another soldier.
Is this one event to define incels?
Or is the issue broader & more complex
than "An incel committed mass murder."