>insert any ethnicity here< deserves genocide. Is it racist?

[Sanzbir]

Since it is a question with an obvious answer, rather than simply giving the obvious answer, I'm going to over-analyze the question for fun:

">insert any ethnicity here< deserves genocide. Is it racist?"

Google says "Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another".

"Race" is either:
A) A scientific term grouping humans into the groups Caucasoid, Negroid, Capoid, Mongoloid, and Australoid.
Or B) A completely arbitrary and imaginary method of dividing humans that pretends to be as scientific as the former.

Ethnicity is "the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition."

So I'm voting "No" it is not racist. 'Cause "race" and "ethnicity" are different things. "Race" is either biological or imaginary, depending on how you view it, and ethnicity is cultural.

As an example, if a Punjabi man wants the death of the Irish ethnicity, he wants to put an end to an ethnic group that shares the same Caucasoid racial grouping as himself. So how could that be "racist"??

 

[columbus]

So I'm voting "No" it is not racist. 'Cause "race" and "ethnicity" are different things. "Race" is either biological or imaginary, depending on how you view it, and ethnicity is cultural.

Meanwhile, back in the real world....
Race and racism and racists are not particularly rational, much less scientifically precise.
Tom

 

[Sanzbir]

Meanwhile, back in the real world....
Race and racism and racists are not particularly rational, much less scientifically precise.
Tom

My post already covered that. But who reads posts they comment on in RF anyway, right??

 

[columbus]

My post already covered that. But who reads posts they comment on in RF anyway, right??

Sorry if I was excessively meta.
I was kinda responding to the OP, and the many people who were a bit literal about the tweet.
Tom

 

[Nakosis]

The question is simple. Is it racist to wish genocide upon any ethnicity? The answer is a simple yes or no. Make your vote and explain why you feel the way you feel.

Sure, but it's not illegal to be a racist. Is it immoral to be a racist? Apparently not for some folks.

 

[Enoch07]

Since it is a question with an obvious answer, rather than simply giving the obvious answer, I'm going to over-analyze the question for fun:

">insert any ethnicity here< deserves genocide. Is it racist?"

Google says "Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another".

"Race" is either:
A) A scientific term grouping humans into the groups Caucasoid, Negroid, Capoid, Mongoloid, and Australoid.
Or B) A completely arbitrary and imaginary method of dividing humans that pretends to be as scientific as the former.

Ethnicity is "the fact or state of belonging to a social group that has a common national or cultural tradition."

So I'm voting "No" it is not racist. 'Cause "race" and "ethnicity" are different things. "Race" is either biological or imaginary, depending on how you view it, and ethnicity is cultural.

As an example, if a Punjabi man wants the death of the Irish ethnicity, he wants to put an end to an ethnic group that shares the same Caucasoid racial grouping as himself. So how could that be "racist"??

Racism - Wikipedia

An exert:

Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another, which often results in discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity. Today, the use of the term "racism" does not easily fall under a single definition.[1]

The ideology underlying racist practices often includes the idea that humans can be subdivided into distinct groups that are different due to their social behavior and their innate capacities as well as the idea that they can be ranked as inferior or superior.

Your Punjabi man would be considered racist.

 

[Sanzbir]

Racism - Wikipedia

An exert:

Racism is the belief in the superiority of one race over another, which often results in discrimination and prejudice towards people based on their race or ethnicity. Today, the use of the term "racism" does not easily fall under a single definition.[1]

The ideology underlying racist practices often includes the idea that humans can be subdivided into distinct groups that are different due to their social behavior and their innate capacities as well as the idea that they can be ranked as inferior or superior.

Your Punjabi man would be considered racist.

First sentence of your chosen definition shows otherwise. Only time "ethnicity" is mentioned is in how racism "often results".

 

[Enoch07]

First sentence of your chosen definition shows otherwise. Only time "ethnicity" is mentioned is in how racism "often results".

The words are often misused in place of each other, a lot. But while there are many different ethnicities there is only 1 race of humans.

But it boils down to if you think another type of human being is lesser, or greater, than others based on their skin color (basically), then that counts as racist.

 

[Mister Emu]

"White genocide" is white supremacist speak for race mixing.

"White genocide" refers to the promotion of race mixing and the derogation of child bearing among those with strictly or large majority European heritage with the stated intention of removing the "white" phenotype from existence. Whether you believe that to be a position with minuscule representation not worth bothering with is up to you; I certainly don't think it is as widespread as some racist groups believe. Either way, those that advocate for "an end to whiteness" are disgusting bigots.

Why? He's just a radical Marxist.

That seals it.

 

[columbus]

"White genocide" refers to the promotion of race mixing and the derogation of child bearing among those with strictly or large majority European heritage with the stated intention of removing the "white" phenotype from existence.

But, for some reason, nobody talks about "black genocide".
Every biracial baby is one less black, or whatever, pureblood as well. And that's a good thing, because "hybrid vigor" really is a thing. The more distantly related the parents are the more likely the child will inherit good traits.

Maybe that's why Obama is so superior to the racially pure Presidents before and since.
Tom

 

[Mister Emu]

But, for some reason, nobody talks about "black genocide".

For some reason, no one is out there advocating white people move to Africa and abolish black skin. For some reason, no major African country is expected to become black minority in the coming decades. I wonder if those are correlated?

And that's a good thing, because "hybrid vigor" really is a thing

Show evidence that human racial convergence is beneficial.

Maybe that's why Obama is so superior to the racially pure Presidents before and since.

Ha! Good one.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

For some reason, no one is out there advocating white people move to Africa and abolish black skin. For some reason, no major African country is expected to become black minority in the coming decades. I wonder if those are correlated?


Show evidence that human racial convergence is beneficial.


Ha! Good one.

No one is trying to "abolish white skin". That's not what abolishing "whiteness" means. "Whiteness" refers to a socio-political system of white privilege.

As for demographic changes, white people just aren't having enough kids to replace them and the economic system needs workers to stay afloat so immigration is called for to sustain the workforce.

 

[Mister Emu]

And that's a good thing, because "hybrid vigor" really is a thing.

"Better" genetics is a good thing? Are you a eugenicist?

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

"White genocide" refers to the promotion of race mixing and the derogation of child bearing among those with strictly or large majority European heritage with the stated intention of removing the "white" phenotype from existence.

You think there's a "white phenotype?"

 

[Mister Emu]

No one is trying to "abolish white skin".

You're right, no one ever said "we must eradicate white people from the face of the earth". A French president never said if people don't voluntarily intermarry the state will have to use coercive methods.

Pretending it doesn't exist is as bad as exaggerating it to a full world-wide conspiracy.

 

[Mister Emu]

You think there's a "white phenotype?"

Come on with this pedantry. Skin color is part of a person's phenotype.

 

[Saint Frankenstein]

You're right, no one ever said "we must eradicate white people from the face of the earth". A French president never said if people don't voluntarily intermarry the state will have to use coercive methods.

Pretending it doesn't exist is as bad as exaggerating it to a full world-wide conspiracy.

Oh, I'm sure some crank has said that white people should be exterminated. You can find people saying anything and everything, but do they all have power to make change? I'm not familiar with a French president making a statement like you said. If they did, that's obviously not good but apparently nothing came of it. My point is that there is no conspiracy to "exterminate", "abolish" or otherwise lessen the numbers of white people. That's just fears of changing demographics and apparent loss of a previously privileged social position.

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Come on with this pedantry. Skin color is part of a person's phenotype.

I'm more interested in the notion that "white" is a single phenotype, since there's a huge variation in physical characteristics among people described as "white."

 

[Twilight Hue]

The question is simple. Is it racist to wish genocide upon any ethnicity? The answer is a simple yes or no. Make your vote and explain why you feel the way you feel.

No in my opinion. Genocide is death to an entire race, so it's an abomination in my view.

Largely my decisions are based on the fact that one of our first acts as early humans was the genocide of the Neanderthals.

My imagination can only guess what life would have been like if neanderthals had survived with homo sapiens. What kind of world could it have been?

I tend to favor more optimism than pessimism when it comes to ethnicity. I like the differences and I hope people preserve their differences which probably makes me "semi racist" (or not) depending on how you look at it in the sense that I think an individual persons color and culture should be preserved in people so I do support selective voluntary breeding for those that desire and want and identity that which is unique and different from others.

I personally don't want to see a compulsive homogeneous bland race in the very end, where all cultures and races biologically merge and disappears forever into one "master race" through extensive interbreeding because I think we will lose something very valuable. Like anything, such a homogeneous race would have its pros and cons like any other.

It's always hard to tell how these issues will go.

For now genocide is never justified, even in cases of attrition rather than extermination, it's horrible in my view.

 

[Mister Emu]

If they did, that's obviously not good but apparently nothing came of it.

I'm pretty sure you don't mean that it is no big deal to be genocidally racist as long as nothing comes of it.

My point

Agreed, but there are people of power and influence who are so racist and genocidal and who push what they view as advancement towards this goal.

I'm more interested in the notion that "white" is a single phenotype

Have fun with that interest. I can't help you.