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That probably does not translate into Australian.Adam and Eve on a raft. Wreck em!
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That probably does not translate into Australian.Adam and Eve on a raft. Wreck em!
That probably does not translate into Australian.
Two eggs, on toast, usually poached or fried with broken yolks. Alternatively scrambled eggs works too..Correct. I just thought it was the eccentric wabbit losing his mind again.
Two eggs, on toast, usually poached or fried with broken yolks. Alternatively scrambled eggs works too..
I have heard of it but never seen it. I have made bangers and mash.
I have seen these on different menus.
When I looked up "toad in a hole" it involved sausages. It still looks tasty and it is breakfast time here. I don't have any chives.
LOL Great minds.You beat me to it. But still funny.
Hmmm, cherry cheesecake. Awesome.
Thank you. And agreed.That is a good point. What about the ugly stuff? What does it show. I'm sure that some convoluted, poorly informed tale can be woven to address it, but those contrivances often stand on contradictions, poor information, wishful thinking and poor logic.
I have a feeling we're thinking of some of the same graphic examples.I had some graphic examples that came to mind to post, but I thought better than including them in my response to you. I think we can all come up with plenty of examples of horrible, very ugly things.
When I looked up "toad in a hole" it involved sausages. It still looks tasty and it is breakfast time here. I don't have any chives.
Yeah, there we go. Well, I go back to no proof in science, either way I guess. Maybe I guess wrong. Maybe there is proof one way or the other.
I have questions, and perhaps one or two of you can answer some questions peacefully. I prefer a peaceful discussion without insults, perhaps. I am reading a book by Hawking and Mlodinow. There are statements there I have questions about. When I first got on these forums I was told outrightly that there is no proof in science.And that’s where you sticking your head in the sand…again.
In science, as well as in mathematics, proofs are logical statements or logical models, like mathematical equations. They are part of the explanation and part of prediction in a model. Proofs or equations are themselves “model” in a hypothesis or theory.
Mathematical equations are useful tools in science, but they don’t determine if any of the new hypotheses or existing scientific theories are PROBABLE or IMPROBABLE.
Only TESTS & OBSERVATIONS (eg EVIDENCE & EXPERIMENTS, plus DATA) can make that determination and resolution to the hypotheses or theories “status” as being “science” or being “scientific” PROBABLE.
Thar’s what Scientific Method (and, Methodological Naturalism) is all about. First, the first part of Scientific Method is TO FORMULATE THE MODEL on the basis of preliminary observations. The second part, is TO TEST THE MODEL.
The only way to test the model, is to show observations (eg evidence, experiments & data) that will verify the model being PROBABLE or to show observations that will REFUTE the model being IMPROBABLE.
The Scientific Method don’t rely on proofs TO TEST THE MODEL, they rely on the discoveries of evidence, or repeatable experiment, and the all-important data that you would obtain from evidence or experiments.
Scientific Method also don’t require to prove or disprove the model. You don’t even know what you mean by prove or disprove. It isn’t essential for any scientific theory, because it is what mathematicians and theoretical physicists do, they present solutions in the form of mathematical equations or formulas, and then they would prove or disprove by solving the equations. That’s what they mean by prove or disprove.
In mathematics and theoretical physics, PROOF is all about solving equations, and these abstract solutions are solved, by doing the following examples:
That’s what proof is, finding solutions through equation solving, but for theoretical physicists, such solutions are abstract, and they are only proposed models or proposed solutions. Such solutions are provisional, and they are only proposals…but in the real world, evidence trump abstract solutions.
- using multiple small equations to create a single complex equation
- breaking down a large complex equation into multiple smaller equations
- breaking down a large complex equation by simplifying it, to create a less confusing equation
- using matrices or vectors as solutions
- using differential equations or integral equations (calculus) to find solutions
The equations in Ohm’s Law, in Newton’s law of motion & universal gravitation, in Maxwell’s equations, in Einstein’s Special Relativity (the mass-energy equivalence equation) or General Relativity (Einstein’s field equations), are all examples of proofs in science…
…but none of these equations are true, unless they have been rigorously tested by observations through evidence or through experiments. These solutions are only accepted if they are supported by physical evidence. These equations would be deemed unreliable & incorrect, should evidence refute the any of these equations.
That you keep insisting on proofs, but there are proofs in sciences - they are known as equations or formulas. But evidence is far more important than any proof, because evidence are observations of physical (and natural) reality, whereas proof are abstract.
what proofs aren’t - they are not the same thing as “evidence”.
You confuse the proof in movies and in legal process as one and the same as evidence…but in the world of science and math, they are not same things.
Your insistence on there being no proof only demonstrate your illiteracy in science, and the fact that you cannot learn from your mistakes, further show that you do not have wisdom.
Do you know what real wisdom is, YoursTrue?
Wisdom isn’t about knowing everything. True wisdom, is knowing when you are wrong, and your education is limited, then the wisdom is all about doing something about it, and that means asking for help or asking questions, to get the right information or the right education...
….in another word, to learn from your mistakes. That’s true wisdom.
But you continue to not learn from your mistakes. You just keep repeating them again, and again, and again.
I don't think anyone has to ponder on the subject too much come up with examples. In my zeal, I nearly forgot that detailed examples aren't necessary and sometimes worthy of being unwelcome. Occasionally I catch myself before the foot gets stuck in my teeth.Thank you. And agreed.
I have a feeling we're thinking of some of the same graphic examples.
I appreciate it, but I think they were both good. My dessert joke may have had more calories is all.Thank you. And agreed.
I have a feeling we're thinking of some of the same graphic examples.
Nice! I'll take two with lots of bacon.
Hey!Correct. I just thought it was the eccentric wabbit losing his mind again.
Actually billions of years. We have incremental step by step evolution of the complex nervous system and parallel increase in the properties of consciousness that increases in complexity.If, according to evolutionists, human intelligence eventually emerged in an environment that was previously lifeless for millions and millions of years... what is so strange that a Superior Intelligence has already existed for another INFINITE number of years BEFORE that period of time?
True, there is no such thing as proof in science. By definition proof is a math concept, and used in logical arguments. It is important to get things straight in plain English language.I have questions, and perhaps one or two of you can answer some questions peacefully. I prefer a peaceful discussion without insults, perhaps. I am reading a book by Hawking and Mlodinow. There are statements there I have questions about. When I first got on these forums I was told outrightly that there is no proof in science.
The toad must habenn hit by a truck.
What are you saying? What's human intelligence? I believe consciousness is prevelant in the full girth of the cosmos and is a something, like feature or whatnot, of nothing; god. But evolution is fact. We see it happen all the time, with fruit flies and other short living creatures and plants, with adaptation to the environment, with the similarness to your parents, with the fossil record. All kinds of things. There are even double helix nebulas that form in the sealike space. Dude, how can you not believe in god but realize science gets it right when it comes to things like geology and cosmology, and biology.? What causes you to be so stubborn in your, what amounts to, evil cause.If, according to evolutionists, human intelligence eventually emerged in an environment that was previously lifeless for millions and millions of years... what is so strange that a Superior Intelligence has already existed for another INFINITE number of years BEFORE that period of time?