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Is Athiesm a Religion?

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Part of it was 'strongly held beliefs'. Are you saying now that you might believe in God? I don't think so.
My disbelief in gods is speculative, ie, I cannot prove there are none, so I don't claim a strongly held belief.....or rather, disbelief. This is typical of atheists, & represents the general case.
 

RAYYAN

Proud Muslim
Once again from Lewis Carro1l …
'Would you tell me please,' said Alice, 'what that means?'

'Now you talk like a reasonable child,' said Humpty Dumpty, looking very much pleased. 'I meant by "impenetrability" that we've had enough of that subject, and it would be just as well if you'd mention what you mean to do next, as I suppose you don't mean to stop here all the rest of your life.'

'That's a great deal to make one word mean,' Alice said in a thoughtful tone.

'When I make a word do a lot of work like that,' said Humpty Dumpty, 'I always pay it extra.'

'Oh!' said Alice. She was too much puzzled to make any other remark.​
and what is your question in a simple form that I can understand?
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
My disbelief in gods is speculative, ie, I cannot prove there are none, so I don't claim a strongly held belief.....or rather, disbelief. This is typical of atheists, & represents the general case.
that sounds more like agnostic... ''you don't know''. Is that what you are saying?
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
that sounds more like agnostic... ''you don't know''. Is that what you are saying?
I am both an agnostic & an atheist.
I'm an agnostic because I do not know.
I'm an atheist because were there gods, I'd expect evidence of them. Since I see none, this points in the direction of disbelief.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
I am both an agnostic & an atheist.
I'm an agnostic because I do not know.
I'm an atheist because were there gods, I'd expect evidence of them. Since I see none, this points in the direction of disbelief.
haha.... I don't think so. Either you are sure there is none, or you are not.
 

jonathan180iq

Well-Known Member
It is supported factually, but it is withing that the proof is found. That is why you can't see it.

Evidence for it is based on subjective understanding. Surely you see the problem here...
Also, it's not wise to assume things about people - you don't know their background or what they have (or have not) studied.

Just to show the other side of the coin, atheims torutured and killed many people in Russia and Romania and i would say many other incidents if they were recorded as such.

Have they done so on the grounds of The Great Atheist Doctrine?
"My book of atheist beliefs says that you are bad people! I shall invade this land, claim it as my own, and destroy your temples in the name of The Great Nothing - Die you heinous believers!!!"
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
Taking that definition, atheism very much "has to do with a belief in god," being that the atheist doesn't have that belief. I think it's just a case that the "prophets and scholars" are the ones who put out the dogma,* define what's tradition and concretize the rituals by formalizing them. That's precisely what the books accomplish.

*Who put the dogma out... whoot whoot
True.

But I don't think it's there yet. Perhaps we'll see atheist churches and ordained ministers in the future, but currently the stage is more of the cult stage. :D
 

RAYYAN

Proud Muslim
Since there was no question it seems reasonable to conclude that your understanding was/is nonexistent. I'm not sure I can help with that condition, but I wish you the best. :)
Thanks a lot.
I can't help you with your arrogance too. but with you luck
 

Ouroboros

Coincidentia oppositorum
There are atheist who have bought a church in England because they want the 'God feeling' whithout God. haha. So they go there for a sgin-song and a cup of tea, smack each other on the back, and then presumably go home and wait to die.
I missed this post.

Really? They did? Ok. I'll admit, perhaps atheism is becoming a religion after all.
 

Robert.Evans

You will be assimilated; it is His Will.
Evidence for it is based on subjective understanding. Surely you see the problem here...
Also, it's not wise to assume things about people - you don't know their background or what they have (or have not) studied.



Have they done so on the grounds of The Great Atheist Doctrine?
"My book of atheist beliefs says that you are bad people! I shall invade this land, claim it as my own, and destroy your temples in the name of The Great Nothing - Die you heinous believers!!!"
atheist tortured and killed people in Romania SPECIFICALLY because they were Christian. So I would say so yes. Was it not supposed to be atheist in the Columbine school shooting?
 
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