Ok... I will respond when I have more time and leisure to be thorough.
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Is being gay a sin according to your religion?
- Thread starter AlphaAlex115
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How do you know it does? This is a double edged sword. But the truth is, the onus is on you to prove its divine. I have always said the Bible contains wisdom but so, too, does the Upanishads, the Vedas, and so on. Do you wish to state that there was no divine input into any other sacred text? Are you willing to say that the Qu'ran was not divinely inspired and if you are, on what basis do you make such as assertion?
MountainPine
Deuteronomy 30:16
It is not fair to infer that the Westboro Baptist Church represents Christianity, or even most of it. C'mon dude, really? Christians do not normally make public pickets promoting hate and violence towards certain demographics.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Good point. There is also a need to separate the wheat from the chaff when looking at ancient religious texts.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
The bigots of Westboro Baptist Church are just taking the homophobia of the Abrahamic traditions to it's logical conclusion.
MountainPine
Deuteronomy 30:16
I disagree, but that's beside the point. You are nitpicking a single sentence from what I said and failed to address my point, which is to say that gays should have their own institutions that cater to their wants.
Then the laws should be changed. The government shouldn't be conducting marriages in the first place.
MountainPine
Deuteronomy 30:16
The Westboro Baptist Church represents less than 1% of Christians in the world, and even less of the Abrahamic faiths, thus it is an illogical conclusion.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Marriage is a civil institution and not a religious one.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
But homophobia attitudes are deeply embedded in the Abrahamic faiths. As is sexism.
Westboro Baptists are just being more public about it.
MountainPine
Deuteronomy 30:16
Alright fine, by that logic I could say that all the White races are evil because of Nazi Germany and the Confederacy. :/
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
The rest of it is fine so I let it go by.
Also are you saying heterosexuals and homosexuals should be segregated? Because plenty of heterosexuals can and have provided these services to homosexuals believe it or not, not all heterosexuals are homophobias like yourself.
I agree with your stament about government conducted marriages. But the laws should not change to fit Christians, that is a violation of the first amendment.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Not all whites are Nazis or Neo-confederates but all Christians are Abrahamic.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Less members =/= less logical.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
What world do you live in?
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
Indeed. Defining spirit in terms of Christ is a very specific religious belief which many will not share. It's that familiar pattern of monotheists trying to claim a monopoly on spirituality and religion.
No, they aren't. Various Gnostic Christians are not Abrahamic.
Taylor Seraphim
Angel of Reason
Technically they are.
Rick O'Shez
Irishman bouncing off walls
It's a reference to the Abrahamic faiths, meaning Islam, Christianity and Judaism. Some of the more liberal sects reject discrimination against gays, but they are in a tiny minority.
I was just pointing out that not all Christians worship the deity of Abraham.
MountainPine
Deuteronomy 30:16
I'm not talking about segregation. I'm talking about forcing Christians or other religious people to cater to homosexuals against their will (which IS a violation of the first amendment). If any heterosexual doesn't have a problem with homosexuals, then more power to them to serve them.