Is Bill O'Reilly correct about the African-American culture and race?

[Magic Man]

Ancient Rome, the Persian Empire, the tribes of Afghanistan (where do you think the Kush strand comes from?), the Mayans, Aztecs , Olmec, various Native American tribes, early Northern Africans... All of these people were avid pot smokers.

Do you have some links? I'm not opposed to this being true; it's just news to me.

 

[LuisDantas]

I do. You could look at the facts of the case. Sorry, I don't mean to be flippant, but seriously, I don't see how you could possibly look at the facts and disagree with what I said.

I guess it depends on which facts, but mainly on previous expectations of what should be considered acceptable.

It is a given that I strongly disapprove of the current levels of acceptance of psychochemicals, including alcohol, tobacco and many legal medicinal drugs.

Admitedly, I am strict and demanding on the matter of neurochemical, for lack of a better word, "purity".

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

Do you have some links? I'm not opposed to this being true; it's just news to me.

Marijuana - The First Twelve Thousand Years - 1. Cannabis in the Ancient World
Cannabis and Ancient History
Ancient Egypt and Cannabis - Philadelphia medical marijuana | Examiner.com
The 10,000-year World History of Hemp and Cannabis
Ancient Stoner Warriors Shame Modern Social Straight Edges

 

[ChristineES]

I am reading through this thread and I feel the only thing I can add is that people only seem to notice what's bad about everyone else, but ignore what's wrong about themselves. O'Reilly is no exception to that one.

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

Namaste,

Hey! Brother, why did you leave out the Hindus? They smoked hella' pot, yo! Many still do!

One word: Shivrātri....hehehehe.

M.V.

ps - Indica, baby. Indica.

Just went off the top of my head. I also left out the Chinese, who were the first people to record usage of pot for medicinal purposes around 2300 BCE.

PS- Sativa... all day

 

[Poeticus]

..

Namaste,

Yes, the pharmacological book known as "The Herbal" from Ancient (ancient, ancient) China. Some say it is from 4000BCE and others say from 2000BCE.

M.V.

 

[I.S.L.A.M617]

ps

Forum rules forbid me from answering ... I've already been warned lol. So no, I haven't the slightest idea what you mean

 

[Poeticus]

Forum rules

Namaste,

I went back and deleted hahaha.

M.V.

 

[tytlyf]

But it is interesting that racism has increased over the years and not declined as one would expect. This attitude is not limited to one political group, but it is more pronounced by Republican (64%) over Democrats(55%). These figures are from the following link and additional information can be found there: Poll finds fresh increase in US racism - Americas - Al Jazeera English
another link is Racial prejudice has increased to 51 per cent of Americans since Obama took office finds AP poll | Mail Online

I think you're stretching with that statement. Racism in the US will continue to drop as a whole as decades go by. The only reason the anti-black sentiment jumped since 2008 and Obama's election is just that, a black man getting into office. And of course you have the CONmedia demonizing their every move. Notice the statistics are higher with republicans.

 

[Magic Man]

I guess it depends on which facts, but mainly on previous expectations of what should be considered acceptable.

It is a given that I strongly disapprove of the current levels of acceptance of psychochemicals, including alcohol, tobacco and many legal medicinal drugs.

Admitedly, I am strict and demanding on the matter of neurochemical, for lack of a better word, "purity".

Why do you disapprove of them?

 

[LuisDantas]

Why do you disapprove of them?

Because I see them as destructive. You may even say that it is an oddity of mine, I don't necessarily disagree.

I have never had much sympathy or tolerance for any kind of intoxication. I believe it has to do with my perception that a clear rational mind is the most precious resource that one can ever have.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

Because I see them as destructive. You may even say that it is an oddity of mine, I don't necessarily disagree.

I have never had much sympathy or tolerance for any kind of intoxication. I believe it has to do with my perception that a clear rational mind is the most precious resource that one can ever have.

Some people see relaxing, having a good time, and letting their hair down as a precious resource.

 

[LuisDantas]

Some people see relaxing, having a good time, and letting their hair down as a precious resource.

I am one of them. I fail to see why that would justify intoxication, though.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

I am one of them. I fail to see why that would justify intoxication, though.

Because it can be fun, relaxing, and promote social interaction.

 

[LuisDantas]

Because it can be fun, relaxing, and promote social interaction.

You're entitled to believe that it is worth the trouble.

I just won't agree. Probably ever.

 

[Kilgore Trout]

You're entitled to believe that it is worth the trouble.

I just won't agree. Probably ever.

You're certainly entitled to believe that in regards to yourself and being intoxicated. If it's that much trouble for you, then you probably shouldn't be intoxicated.

 

[LuisDantas]

Thanks.

 

[esmith]

I think you're stretching with that statement. Racism in the US will continue to drop as a whole as decades go by. The only reason the anti-black sentiment jumped since 2008 and Obama's election is just that, a black man getting into office. And of course you have the CONmedia demonizing their every move. Notice the statistics are higher with republicans.

Didn't take time to read the articles I guess, just made an assumption that since I said it it must be wrong. Just to make sure I will quote from one article, you can take it or leave it (I assume you will disregard it since it disagrees with you).

Racial attitudes have not improved in the four years since the US elected its first black president, an Associated Press poll has found.
Released on Saturday, the AP Poll used a combination of explicit and implicit questions about race and found that prejudice has increased slightly since 2008.
In all, 51 per cent of those polled expressed explicit anti-black attitudes, compared with 48 percent in a similar 2008 survey
When measured by an implicit racial attitudes test, the number of Americans with anti-black sentiments jumped to 56 per cent, up from 49 per cent during the last presidential election
In both tests, the share of Americans expressing pro-black attitudes fell.

 

[Magic Man]

Because I see them as destructive. You may even say that it is an oddity of mine, I don't necessarily disagree.

How are they destructive?

I have never had much sympathy or tolerance for any kind of intoxication. I believe it has to do with my perception that a clear rational mind is the most precious resource that one can ever have.

OK, but you can have a clear, rational mind while still partaking in drugs like alcohol and marijuana in moderation. I'm sorry, I'm just still not seeing the argument for these things being bad, unless abused.

 

[dust1n]

"Cannabis is indigenous to Central and South Asia.[158] Evidence of the inhalation of cannabis smoke can be found in the 3rd millennium BCE, as indicated by charred cannabis seeds found in a ritual brazier at an ancient burial site in present day Romania.[159] In 2003, a leather basket filled with cannabis leaf fragments and seeds was found next to a 2,500- to 2,800-year-old mummified shaman in the northwestern Xinjiang Uygur Autonomous Region of China.[160][161]

Cannabis is also known to have been used by the ancient Hindus of India and Nepal thousands of years ago. The herb was called ganjika in Sanskrit (गांजा,ganja in modern Indo-Aryan languages).[162][163] The ancient drug soma, mentioned in the Vedas, was sometimes associated with cannabis.[164]

Cannabis was also known to the ancient Assyrians, who discovered its psychoactive properties through the Aryans.[165] Using it in some religious ceremonies, they called it qunubu (meaning "way to produce smoke"), a probable origin of the modern word "cannabis".[166] Cannabis was also introduced by the Aryans to the Scythians, Thracians and Dacians, whose shamans (the kapnobatai—"those who walk on smoke/clouds") burned cannabis flowers to induce a state of trance.[167]

Cannabis has an ancient history of ritual use and is found in pharmacological cults around the world. Hemp seeds discovered by archaeologists at Pazyryk suggest early ceremonial practices like eating by the Scythians occurred during the 5th to 2nd century BCE, confirming previous historical reports by Herodotus.[168] One writer has claimed that cannabis was used as a religious sacrament by ancient Jews and early Christians[169][170] due to the similarity between the Hebrew word "qannabbos" ("cannabis") and the Hebrew phrase "qené bósem" ("aromatic cane"). It was used by Muslims in various Sufi orders as early as the Mamluk period, for example by the Qalandars.[171]

A study published in the South African Journal of Science showed that "pipes dug up from the garden of Shakespeare's home in Stratford-upon-Avon contain traces of cannabis."[172] The chemical analysis was carried out after researchers hypothesized that the "noted weed" mentioned in Sonnet 76 and the "journey in my head" from Sonnet 27 could be references to cannabis and the use thereof.[173] Examples of classic literature featuring cannabis include Les paradis artificiels by Charles Baudelaire and The Hasheesh Eater by Fitz Hugh Ludlow."



Cannabis sativa from Vienna Dioscurides, 512 AD

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabis_(drug)#History