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I believe I do not agree. Biblical standards are set by God.Biblical standards are set by people. As they should be.
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I believe I do not agree. Biblical standards are set by God.Biblical standards are set by people. As they should be.
I believe it wouldn't matter. The books were written independently.You realise Paul wrote before the Gospels?
I believe that is false. Jesus is God in the flesh as the Bible indicates.Because He is not God only a pure reflection of God like a mirror facing the sun. Christ denies being God or the Father and it is only a wrong interpretation that is at fault here.
So I am told. However, I am told so by people with wildly diverging understandings of what that would mean in practice. And then there are people who say much the same about the Qur'an. Also a few other, less influential groups.I believe I do not agree. Biblical standards are set by God.
Again, you are having a hard time facing the fact that actual human beings picked up a pen and wrote the bible.I believe I do not agree. Biblical standards are set by God.
On that we agree.Again, you are having a hard time facing the fact that actual human beings picked up a pen and wrote the bible.
I believe standards in the Bible were set for Jews and standards in the Qu'ran are set for Arabs. For me the standard is whatever Jesus says it is and Jesus is available universally.So I am told. However, I am told so by people with wildly diverging understandings of what that would mean in practice. And then there are people who say much the same about the Qur'an. Also a few other, less influential groups.
So in practice that does not seem to mean much even if taken for granted.
I believe I have no trouble with that because I am writing the words of God as I speak.Again, you are having a hard time facing the fact that actual human beings picked up a pen and wrote the bible.
That is not very helpful, once one takes into account that this is an artificial separation with no support from either scripture nor doctrine.I believe standards in the Bible were set for Jews and standards in the Qu'ran are set for Arabs. For me the standard is whatever Jesus says it is and Jesus is available universally.
Get some help.I believe I have no trouble with that because I am writing the words of God as I speak.
The problems arise when interpretations revolve around causing harm to others accompanied with idolising of the interpreters. A concoction for terrorism.You are over playing the role of clergy in the splits in Christianity. Christianity was born to be fractured. Christianity, in its earliest form, did not have a formal clergy as we understand it today. The early Christian communities were characterized by a more egalitarian and informal structure. Leadership roles were present, but they were not as institutionalized or hierarchically structured as in later Christianity. Christianity was largely spread by word of mouth, with the resulting miscommunications and mis interpretations that one finds in a game of telephone. The New Testament is a collection of what is effectively ancient world fan fiction. It is the collection of texts (New Testament) that represent the compromises of the groups who survived the earlier Bible wars as started by Marcione.
There are certainly a lot of evils to lay at the feet of the Clergy, but the Clergy is not the source of the schisms until much much later.
Also, being guided by a council of people who study and interpret the text if one's religion is not idolatry. Or if it is, then Baha'i is idolatrous.
You're describing all of the abrahamic religions including the Baha'iThe problems arise when interpretations revolve around causing harm to others accompanied with idolising of the interpreters. A concoction for terrorism.
We do not have priests or living interpreters.You're describing all of the abrahamic religions including the Baha'i
You did not say living interpreters. You said "...with idolising of the interpreters."We do not have priests or living interpreters.
The situation is that all the major religions have living priests who regularly interpret their scriptures at weekly sermons. Baha’is do not have living interpreters or a priesthood that can interpret for us and we are forbidden from the leadership down to interpret. Hope this clarifies it?You did not say living interpreters. You said "...with idolising of the interpreters."
Do you want to change your previous statement to include the word "living"?
Judaism does not have practicing priests.The situation is that all the major religions have living priests who regularly interpret their scriptures at weekly sermons. Baha’is do not have living interpreters or a priesthood that can interpret for us and we are forbidden from the leadership down to interpret. Hope this clarifies it?
Wasn’t it the Jewish high priests who rejected Christ claiming He was not the Messiah according to their interpretation of the Torah? I spent 5 years in Burma a Buddhist country. The monks give regular sermons. Yes we read and understand but then we either accept or reject. But those of whatever religion who idolise their priests, accept their interpretations without question. This is a major problem that many religionists do not independently investigate for themselves.Judaism does not have practicing priests.
Baha'i is not a major religion.
Buddhism does not have weekly sermons.
All reading and listening is interpretation, therefore all existing religions with texts have living interpreters.
You said living. Did you not? Kindly stop changing your story.Wasn’t it the Jewish high priests who rejected Christ claiming He was not the Messiah according to their interpretation of the Torah?
While our priests do not have temple duties today, since there is no temple, they do still have a specific role, such as the delivery of the priestly blessing on certain holy days.Judaism does not have practicing priests.
Yep. My apologies. I forgot about that. But in the context of the discussion ...do they currently perform preaching or authoritative interpretation of scripture?While our priests do not have temple duties today, since there is no temple, they do still have a specific role, such as the delivery of the priestly blessing on certain holy days.