IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
None of which is related to the topic of whether christmas trees are pagan or not.
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Is halloween _pagan
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Little Dragon
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Well that is just untrue. Folklore traditions myths and other things still linger, one day when we flush abrahamic religion from our lands, we can rediscover our pre christian spirituality and innate cultural identity.
Little Dragon
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Don't care. Stop replying to me.
What is Samhain? Traditions and History of the Ancient Celtic Festival — AshWood Candles
Samhain is the ancient pagan festival of the dead from Ireland and Scotland. Explore how this Celtic festival morphed into what we know as Halloween today.
www.ashwoodcandles.co.uk
This explains everything from the Celtic fire festival to the churches adoption and modifications, all the way through to our modern interpretation of halloween.
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"Santa Claus may owe his earliest influence to Odin (also known as Wodan), a god revered by Germanic peoples in Northern Europe as early as 2 B.C.E. Odin was celebrated during Yule, a pagan holiday that took place midwinter. During this time, Odin was said to lead the Wild Hunt, a ghostly procession through the sky."
The Fascinating Folklore Origins of Santa Claus
How did the tale of a plump man in a sled come to be synonymous with Christmas? As it turns out, Santa Claus has roots in the folklore of several different European countries.explorethearchive.com
I would advise against uncritically accepting whatever you find on the internet.
Saint Nick wasn’t even a Northern European saint, and the (remarkably feeble) connections between him and Odin are mostly based on a modern American poem after he had been long established, not ancient tradition.
Are you aware that Christians also live in the cold north and thus created their own traditions based on their experiences in the cold north?
All cultures create their own traditions its not like the only 2 choices are “Jesus did it” or “stole it from the pagans”
Little Dragon
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Just stop. I am not interested in debating this any more. Lets agree to disagree.
Now, easter bunnies and easter eggs, were are they in the Bible?
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Symbols of spring. Surely you don't think pagans have a monopoly on enjoying the springtime?
Little Dragon
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Turkish right? Odd how Santa doesn't look very Turkic. Anyway f this debate. Christmas is terrible. I hate Christmas!
Little Dragon
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No ****...
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Wow. As a Jew, I do not celebrate Christmas. But I don't hate it either. I'm baffled as to the source of your anger.
Little Dragon
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Symbols of renewal and new life. hence the association with the resurrection of Jebus.
Do you see it?
Do ya?
Ancient pagan symbols...that you dismiss so earnestly yet obliviously.
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IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Exactly, which is why they are associated with Spring, since it is in spring that most animals go into heat. Again, paganism doesn't have a monopoly on enjoying springtime. Even we Jews put a roasted egg on our Passover plates.
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Little Dragon
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I hate everything about it, it annoys me. I don't appreciate the nonsense and expense that comes with it. I don't want presents. I don't want to buy presents. Buy yourself a present and pretend its from me.
It's tacky and tasteless, its a time of increased road deaths and higher rates of suicide. I am not a fan!
Little Dragon
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Blah blah snidey comment blah smiley face..You appear to hate factual accuracy too
Little Dragon
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A bizarre statement. I was referring to fertility traditions and rites, like the maypole, that predated christian incursions.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
There is something just a little bit disturbing that you are so angry about others enjoying their holiday. They are not harming you with their Christmas trees or their Easter hams. They are just having a good time.
Little Dragon
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Its inflicted on the rest of us. Most unfairly.
IndigoChild5559
Loving God and my neighbor as myself.
Oh Pfffft. I'm a Jew living in Southern California. I do not celebrate Christmas. It's all around me in the culture, but it's not a big deal. There is no infliction. If you don't want to celebrate Christmas, then don't. But this hatred makes no sense. There is something missing in your story -- as it stands right now, it makes no sense. But your back story is not my business, so you are not under any obligation to share.
Little Dragon
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Humbug!
That's all there is to say at the moment. Christmas. Silly. Back stories? I would love to bore you all with why I intensely revile the festive season. Maybe when it's December. When my patience has already worn thin.