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Is having sex without a relationship aka a one time thing a Morally wrong thing and if so why ?

Stonetree

Abducted Member
Premium Member
I would help anyone that showed signs of injury, whether I knew them or not. I have a responsibility to all humans who have done me no harm to treat them with respect, and with care, if they need it.
I totally agree.
see it as a sexual encounter. Not a relationship
Yes, but are you responsible for respecting that partner while with them? Or was it just a 'score"?
 

anotherneil

Well-Known Member
What would victimizing be in your view ?
As a rule of thumb, it would be anything done to someone else that's against the law & yes, I know, that opens up another question about what ought to be against the law; in that case, the question - at least when it comes to having sex (with or without a relationship) - should be whether or not it's consenting adults.

As someone who's not religious, I don't think government ought to be in the marriage business or laws pertaining to activities within a marriage & I think constitutional separation of church and state (1st clause of the 1st Amendment) prohibits that anyways.

If someone has sex with their spouse against their will, that's not consent & that individual is a victim.

As a libertarian, I am also opposed to laws that make it a crime for things like oral sex, or having sex with someone else of the same sex; when two individuals doing such things willingly, they're not victimizing each other. Such laws are for religious control over individuals.

Originally marriages did not limit the number of spouses to just one individual, but some contemporary religious policies prohibit polygamy & laws prohibiting polygamy are also for religious control over individuals. Some cultures or religions are ok with polygamy, such as Mormonism & when the government tells them that they're not allowed to practice polygamy, they're infringing on their constitutional freedom from religion (1st clause of 1st Amendment) as well as their constitutional freedom of religion (2nd clause of 1st Amendment). Unless someone is being forced into a polygamous marriage against their will, there is no victim.
 

Stonetree

Abducted Member
Premium Member
Most one night stand are just a 'score'. And many never cross paths again.

Of course you should respect them. Don't make them do things they don't want to do. Don't hurt them. Etc etc.
The OP ,as I understand it, seems to express a common mistake males make......We should not think of casual hetero sex as having an intimate interaction with a vagina in high heels....We are being intimate with a human being who deserves respect. I know it sounds sanctimonious to some. ( I would accept a gift of your horse)
 

anotherneil

Well-Known Member
Really? Why laws against rape?
Because there's a victim; something is being done to them against their will, or they're in a situation where they're not able to make a sound, mature, decision about having sex (they're under the influence of substances, underage, unconscious, mentally incapacitated because of a health/medical condition, etc.).
 

Massimo2002

Active Member
The OP ,as I understand it, seems to express a common mistake males make......We should not think of casual hetero sex as having an intimate interaction with a vagina in high heels....We are being intimate with a human being who deserves respect. I know it sounds sanctimonious to some. ( I would accept a gift of your horse)
But you aren't getting it most hook ups for sex I would think anyway aren't as you are saying which is respectable and intimate.
 

We Never Know

No Slack
The OP ,as I understand it, seems to express a common mistake males make......We should not think of casual hetero sex as having an intimate interaction with a vagina in high heels....We are being intimate with a human being who deserves respect. I know it sounds sanctimonious to some. ( I would accept a gift of your horse)
IMO the word intimate is being over thought. Intimacy involves feelings. I doubt many prostitutes get intimate with their clients.

Same with one night stands. They scratch an itch.
 

Stonetree

Abducted Member
Premium Member
But you aren't getting it most hook ups for sex I would think anyway aren't as you are saying which is respectable and intimate.
You are using bad judgment when you do as 'most' do. I am saying it is wrong to denigrate another human being because you are horny.
The phrase 'consenting adults' implies two people respecting each other's rights. Some guys feel females are goats and Beastiality is in season.
 

Massimo2002

Active Member
You are using bad judgment when you do as 'most' do. I am saying it is wrong to denigrate another human being because you are horny.
The phrase 'consenting adults' implies two people respecting each other's rights. Some guys feel females are goats and Beastiality is in season.
I don't know what bestiality has to do with this but yes you are correct if you are saying that some guys treat women as sex objects.
 

Alien826

No religious beliefs
The question is thoughtlessly or intentionally vague.

Cheating on a partner is dishonest.
Having sex with a non-consenting stranger is abuse.
Having sex with a stranger whose consent is meaningless die to age or mental disability is abuse.

Yes, it's vague. I think the intention was to say "committed relationship", that is where there is an agreement that the relationship would continue, which is as near as I can get to what I mean in one sentence.

Incidentally, the "wrongness" of all your examples apply to circumstances where sex is not involved. So we can I think reasonably categorize them as "wrong" while saying that sex, in and of itself, is .... well, whatever your religion or lack there of suggests.
 

Jayhawker Soule

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Premium Member
Because there's a victim; something is being done to them against their will, or they're in a situation where they're not able to make a sound, mature, decision about having sex (they're under the influence of substances, underage, unconscious, mentally incapacitated because of a health/medical condition, etc.).
So, it has nothing to do with morals. Well done. :rolleyes:
 

We Never Know

No Slack
You are using bad judgment when you do as 'most' do. I am saying it is wrong to denigrate another human being because you are horny.
The phrase 'consenting adults' implies two people respecting each other's rights. Some guys feel females are goats and Beastiality is in season.
"I am saying it is wrong to denigrate another human being because you are horny."

Its wrong to you but lots of consenting people 'hook up' just for sex.
One night stands are about sex and generally that's it.
 

Stevicus

Veteran Member
Staff member
Premium Member
I know that some may be offended by this sexual question but a lot of people have sex without a relationship with a stranger and I am wondering what this would mean morally if it means anything morally.

If both parties agree, nobody is coerced, and nobody is hurt or exploited, then I don't see a moral issue.

Unless they make too much noise and disturb the neighbors. That would be rude.
 

VoidCat

Use any and all pronouns including neo and it/it's
Morally as long as there's informed and consenting adults and all parties involved are respectful of one another and aware of risks involved its usually morally ok to have sex outside of marriage. The exception to this is cheating which is betraying someone's trust by going behind someone's back. I'll also say permanent harm during sex should be avoided it'd be immoral to remove someone's arm during sex for example even if the person consented to it. Tho if the sex is kinky temporary harm like bruising may be ok if it's agreed to and safety precautions are taken and risk reduction is taken into account...theres a bit of a line there however as in what risks are involved and how much temporary harm is involved, what is to be done if things dont go as planned, are boundaries discussed and how informed all parties are etc...like i said you would want all parties involved to have a good time enjoy themselves and someone going to the hospital would ruin that. Its my opinion certain kinks such as bondage, breathplay, etc need to be researched before being done everyone involve needs to know the risks as sometimes injuries can occur if you arent knowledgable enough.

So a one night stand is probably a bad idea regarding some kinky stuff because you may not know if the partner(s) involved are informed enough on the risks and you may not know if they been std tested. Plus its easier to know boundaries with partners you have known a little bit even if you arent in a romantic relationship with them. That being said it's ok to have one night stands just be aware of the risks and try to make sure everyone involved has a good time and that no one gets badly hurt and that no one is cheating on anybody and any risks are kept in mind and discussed even if the only risk may just be stds and emotional risks.
 
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Stonetree

Abducted Member
Premium Member
"I am saying it is wrong to denigrate another human being because you are horny."

Its wrong to you but lots of consenting people 'hook up' just for sex.
One night stands are about sex and generally that's it.
. I wrote, "Wrong to denigrate". I did not write' wrong to consent.'......I've been there, all I'm saying is, "Show some respect to another human being".....
 

We Never Know

No Slack
I know that some may be offended by this sexual question but a lot of people have sex without a relationship with a stranger and I am wondering what this would mean morally if it means anything morally.
I understood what you were asking.

However one thing I have learned here on RF is....

If you ask a simple general question like is the sky blue..
-someone will reply with depends. Do you mean during the day or night
-someone will reply with what do you mean by blue
-someone will reply with what shade of blue are you talking about
-etc etc
 
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VoidCat

Use any and all pronouns including neo and it/it's
I understood what you were asking.

However one thing I have learned here on RF is....

If you ask a simple general question like if the sky is blue..
-someone will reply with depends. Do you mean during the day or night
-someone will reply with what do you mean by blue
-someone will reply with what shade of blue are you talking about
-etc etc
What shade of blue again? Clearly there's orange and yellow in the sky at times.
 
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