You claim that but not 1 person has broke down a single aspect and proved it undeniable. Less talk and more do.
Just because it's fun for me to think about, I'll give it a shot.
1) "God" has a divine plan, but he also gave us free will.
-If he had a plan, wouldn't we pretty much be forced to follow it?
-If we have free will, wouldn't our choices potentially go against his plan?
-You say he knows us 100%, so he knows what we'll do. So it's all part of his plan. I don't see how that's free will.
-As the late George Carlin (RIP) said:
George Carlin said:
Remember that? The Divine Plan. Long time ago, God made a Divine Plan. Gave it a lot of thought, decided it was a good plan, put it into practice. And for billions and billions of years, the Divine Plan has been doing just fine. Now, you come along, and pray for something. Well suppose the thing you want isn't in God's Divine Plan? What do you want Him to do? Change His plan? Just for you? Doesn't it seem a little arrogant? It's a Divine Plan. What's the use of being God if every run-down shmuck with a two-dollar prayerbook can come along and **** up Your Plan?
-If we have free will, how would it be possible for "God" to have a plan?
Conclusion: There are 3 possibilities
a) We have free will, and "God" does not have a divine plan.
b) "God's" divine plan overrides everything, and we do not have free will
c) Your "God" doesn't exist
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2) "God" is perfect.
-"God" was pretty much a prick in the OT. Smiting things left and right, unforgiving.
-"God"
changed after the birth of Jesus, becoming more merciful and forgiving. Compare the OT to the NT, if you don't believe me.
-If "God" was perfect to begin with, why would he need to change?
Conclusion: 2 possibilities.
a) Your "God" is not perfect (therefore pretty much undoing the basis of all your beliefs)
b) Your "God" does not exist
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3) We are "God's" children, and he loves us unconditionally and eternally.
-I think my post in an older thread can sum this up pretty well:
We are God's children, correct? So he is our parent.
The way I view the ideal parent-child relationship is this: unconditional love. He would love us for all our faults. For better or for worse.
Some define Hell as a place with the "absence of God." So that means he has abandoned those who are sent to hell.
So, if your child were to make a mistake or live a lifestyle you don't approve of, does that mean you would disown him/her? How is that loving? How is that unconditional love?
And about Jesus dying on the cross to "save" us. He's harming himself for us, correct?
If your parents were harming themselves to "save" you, wouldn't you be concerned?
Isn't that a guilt trip? Is guilting somebody into doing what you say love? Isn't that a bit manipulative?
IMHO, if this is who the true "God" is, he's mentally ill at best.
Conclusion: 2 possibilities.
a) Your "God" is mentally ill, and therefore imperfect. (Again, undoing the basis of all your beliefs)
b) Your "God" does not exist
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How's that? *patiently awaits Enoch's response*
