Is it Possible to Prove Being the Messiah?

[firedragon]

I helped in the authorship of many of the world's religions, and know lots of the souls personally.

Did you help with the Tanah and Quran?

 

[wizanda]

Jeshurun is just a poetic name for Israel.

There is no such thing as 'just poetic', the Bible is like reading computer code, 'every jot, and tittle' has a symbolism behind it...

Israel (ישׂראל) means 'those who Reign with God', remove El at the end, we remove God from the word, and change the context.

In my opinion.

 

[ChristineM]

Hmmmmmm, what court are you speaking of ? Do we use the normal rules of evidence ?

¨Cherry picking those He met.¨ A statement not found in evidence, so, prove it, with the evidence, not opinion.

Because He met the criteria of the Jewish scriptures, He is the Messiah. When you show evidence for your assertion, opinion, I will happily prove mine, with evidence.

It was @wizanda who mentioned court, talk to him about his claim

So i will ask you, was jesus a direct descendant of king David ?

 

[ChristineM]

Which ones ??

For one see my previous post

 

[ChristineM]

He was a reincarnation of David.

In my opinion.

Where does it say that? If god was JCs father then there is no line through Joseph

 

[ChristineM]

If you meant King David, and not a Chinese Jew, the answer is yes.


Evidence is a legal concept, clearly defined, and precise. If you view evidence as just your opinion, then it has no real value.

¨ filler fluff¨ means ¨ I can´t answer your question ¨

Ahh right so god wasn't jcs dad, glad that is cleared up.

So the bible is not a legal book then. Again thanks.

Nope, filler fluff means it was irrelevant bs with nothing to answer, it was simply a load of cherry picked verses. Of course you know this but feel confrontation is more forte

 

[wizanda]

Did you help with the Tanah and Quran?

On reading Isaiah, Daniel, Zechariah, I knew them as people, I remember them writing it, and how it felt to inspire them.

The Quran is a review of the Biblical contexts, and get somethings right... Like Christianity (John, Paul, and Simon) is a review of Christ, and also gets somethings right.

In my opinion.

 

[sooda]

It was @wizanda who mentioned court, talk to him about his claim

So i will ask you, was jesus a direct descendant of king David ?

Moah was one of the sons of Lot by his daughter..
Deuteronomy 23:3 An Ammonite or Moabite shall not enter into the congregation of the LORD; even to their tenth generation shall they not enter into the congregation of the LORD for ever: And Ruth was a Moabitess.

And Ruth was a Moabitess, AND, the great grandmother of King David.

Ruth 1:22
So Naomi returned, and Ruth the Moabitess, her daughter in law, with her, which returned out of the country of Moab: and they came to Bethlehem in the beginning of barley harvest.

 

[MonkeyFire]

Guess you didn't get that I've got the New Name of Christ (Sananda) here before the Great Tribulation; thus when I'm saying David reincarnated as Yeshua, I'm talking about me.

My own religion is based on complex mathematics given to me by the Source of reality; trying to explain the context of your religious texts books, is for your benefits to fulfil prophecy before the End.



In my opinion.

My religion believes in the "source of reality," (the metabolic process of the universe) and is belief. But, we dont believe in ending except the great Phoenix of before and after, the simaltaneous destruction and creation of time. As for satan he was created from scratch and will go to naught and miss ever after.

 

[firedragon]

On reading Isaiah, Daniel, Zechariah, I knew them as people, I remember them writing it, and how it felt to inspire them.

The Quran is a review of the Biblical contexts, and get somethings right... Like Christianity (John, Paul, and Simon) is a review of Christ, and also gets somethings right.

In my opinion.

So who wrote the Quran?

 

[wizanda]

Where does it say that?

In Psalms 89:19-21 David is chosen to fulfil Isaiah 52:13-14 - Isaiah 53.

Luke 9:35 A voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is my beloved (David in Hebrew) Son. Listen to him!”

When Yeshua said about David calling him Lord, from Psalms 110, where the Lord is appointing David into the order of Melchizedek (Righteous Kings).

In my opinion.

 

[wizanda]

So who wrote the Quran?

I don't know.

In my opinion.

 

[Vinayaka]

Meant to be sarcastically funny, but with a grain of truth.

Christ said that He performed miracles as proof that He was who He said He was. They were his credentials of God.

Actually I was dead serious. I don't believe in messiahs period, and that's what it would take for me to look at all closely at the idea. The stuff about miracles (not much really) could all be embellished fiction for all I know.

 

[wizanda]

Christ said that He performed miracles as proof that He was who He said He was. They were his credentials of God.

Matthew 12:38-42 points out that tho they wanted miracles, Yeshua said the sign will be like Jonah before the Destruction of Ninevah.

In Luke 17:20-37 states when Yeshua returns, everyone will have rejected him, then the Fire cleanses mankind.

In my opinion.

 

[ChristineM]

In Psalms 89:19-21 David is chosen to fulfil Isaiah 52:13-14 - Isaiah 53.

Luke 9:35 A voice came out of the cloud, saying, “This is my beloved (David in Hebrew) Son. Listen to him!”

When Yeshua said about David calling him Lord, from Psalms 110, where the Lord is appointing David into the order of Melchizedek (Righteous Kings).

In my opinion.

So reincarnation of david or the son of god which is it to be

P.s. a reincarnation is not a defendant

And of course, you post seems rather light on reincarnation

 

[sooda]

On reading Isaiah, Daniel, Zechariah, I knew them as people, I remember them writing it, and how it felt to inspire them.

The Quran is a review of the Biblical contexts, and get somethings right... Like Christianity (John, Paul, and Simon) is a review of Christ, and also gets somethings right.

In my opinion.

Good grief. The was NO Daniel. the book was written by a committee of Jews in 167 BC to give hope to the Jews during the time of Antiochus IV Epiphanes.

Daniel or Danel was a popular character in a 1500 year old Syrian poem by the northcoast Canaanites.

 

[wizanda]

So reincarnation of david or the son of god which is it to be

Reincarnation of David is sufficient; God the Source doesn't have biological offspring.

In my opinion.

 

[Notthedarkweb]

Reincarnation of David is sufficient; God the Source doesn't have physical sons.

In my opinion.

Ok, so the problem here is that the triune God assumes that the Son is a part of the Godhead as well, and it was this portion of the Godhead made of the same substance as the Father and the Holy Ghost that was incarnate as Jesus Christ on our world. Jesus being fully human and fully God doesn't necessarily mean that Jesus was created by the Father. Jesus as identified with the Logos (the word) pre-existed from the very beginning and is an essential component of the triune God even before he is incarnated as Son of Man on our world. So he's not really a physical son of God, but Son to the Father, in a metaphorical sense that the Logos is not literally emanating from the Father in the Godhead, but so it would seem to the mind of a man. So yeah, that's that. Jesus wasn't born divine, he was already divine. He was instead born man. His divinity saved humanity eternally from sin by the act of sacrificing himself as Man, the Lamb of God On the cross. If that makes sense.

 

[ChristineM]

Reincarnation of David is sufficient; God the Source doesn't have biological offspring.

In my opinion.

Ahh, more apologetics, the son of god is not the son of god but non biological copy of david all to make it align with a prophecy. If it works for you, so be it

 

[Desert Snake]

The idea the Messiah is God incarnate is idolatrous.

The Bible is badly translated because the Jews after Babylon didn't understand that El (God) is not like the Elohim (Divine Beings) - Isaiah 46:9.

So the Sanhedrin got confused with what Yeshua Elohim was saying, they thought he was claiming to be God, when he was stating he is an Archangel.

In my opinion.

Jesus wasn't claiming to be an archangel, He was claiming to be the 'Lord' aspect, of the Godhood. Called god, basically.

However the spirit of the Lord, working through Jesus, is the Lord aspect, regardless of literalism. [Like how much is the god aspect present in human form, so forth. So, that is why He called god, [an aspect of god.