Is it wrong to advocate homosexuality as a sin?

[Azakel]

Wonder what it will be next week, a pandemic?? (I must learn yoga, just incase I catch it?? )

Just out of curiosity, if your God created mankind, for what purpose did he make sex pleasurable? It seems to me that it is this that makes sex such an issue with people. Your book abhors the "lust of the flesh" and things of that nature and yet it was your God who designed people to experience those pleasures that your book later abhors. It sounds like a setup to me.

It seem you missed the bold part of her post. She was being sarcastic and wasn't Serious. I guess someone can't make jokes when there Christian.

 

[Sunstone]

Although sex in humans has more functions than pleasure, there is certainly nothing wrong with sex for pleasure. The notion that sex for pleasure is somehow less valuable than sex for any other reason is rather Victorian.

 

[Magic Man]

Although sex in humans has more functions than pleasure, there is certainly nothing wrong with sex for pleasure. The notion that sex for pleasure is somehow less valuable than sex for any other reason is rather Victorian.

Who is this Victoria? So that I'll know to avoid her as a girlfriend.

 

[Enlighten]

I checked out the link, there were quite a few interesting comments on the subject matter, especially quote: Are gays born or made?

Took me a while as I didn't remember this being part of the article, it was a comment someone had made, I know you mentioned it (it's early here ).

Are gays born or made ?A very difficult question, and I'm ******** if I know the answer !
But I don't really see how anyone can be born gay, given that sexual attraction does not arise until early teens. So it seems to me that "I was born like this" must be an excuse and copout for a behaviour of choice.
It follows that, if one is born gay and does not learn or adopt homosexuality or homosexual behaviour, then paedophiles could similarly make the excuse that they were born as perverts and their predeliction was equally beyond their control.

I guess this person is ignorant and doesn't know anyone who is gay or they'd know that a person certainly is gay when they are born, they just don't have the guts to "go against" society in general at an early age. (My opinion only)

 

[Enlighten]

Just out of curiosity, if your God created mankind, for what purpose did he make sex pleasurable? It seems to me that it is this that makes sex such an issue with people. Your book abhors the "lust of the flesh" and things of that nature and yet it was your God who designed people to experience those pleasures that your book later abhors. It sounds like a setup to me.

I don't think sex isn't meant to be pleasurable otherwise we wouldn't have been created to experience sex in the way we do. My thoughts are that the word "lust" is the key, e.g. I shouldn't lust after another man.

 

[Enlighten]

It seem you missed the bold part of her post. She was being sarcastic and wasn't Serious. I guess someone can't make jokes when there Christian.

Nope - call the cops!

 

[Mr Cheese]

Are gays born or made ?A very difficult question, and I'm ******** if I know the answer !
But I don't really see how anyone can be born gay, given that sexual attraction does not arise until early teens. So it seems to me that "I was born like this" must be an excuse and copout for a behaviour of choice.
It follows that, if one is born gay and does not learn or adopt homosexuality or homosexual behaviour, then paedophiles could similarly make the excuse that they were born as perverts and their predeliction was equally beyond their control.

Oh rubbish....

I knew I liked girls well before I was a teen....

I was playing naked "doctors and nurses" with a local girl well before either of us were teens....

and you know, thats perfectly NORMAL.

You need a biology lesson, sexuality kicks in before the teens, its just that in the teens you get hormones so there's a whole new element....

Lil boys and many lil girl start touching themselves from a very young age....
and not "just" because it is there....

Being ashamed of one's body and sexuality is repression.
Are you aware that USA actually lobotomized women for enjoyign sex, less than a 100 yrs ago?

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As for pedophilia? well who knows, I tend to think that is due to abuse largely...
but you know what....

Pedophilia has NOTHING to do with homosexuality, you only reveal your bigorty by mentioning them in the same breath

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

Button-line, sex, pleasurable or pleasure-less was primarily designed to produce offspring.

BTW: do you realize that the traits of organisms change their primary functions so often that there's actually a term for the phenomenon?

Exaptation - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

[Carico]

I think it is wrong to advocate homosexuality as a sin. I think it supports and contributes to prejudice against and ignorance of homosexuality. I think spreading the idea, that homosexuality is a sin, is harmful to many, especially gay youths (who are not worldly enough to see past the nonsense).

I want to know what other think about this.

Now, to be clear, I am not questioning the right to spread this nonsense. I understand freedom of expression and its importance. But just because something is lawful that does not mean it is right.

Only God can tell us what sin is because He made the laws and breaking His law is called sin. And God's laws are as irrevocable is the 'laws of nature." Therefore, anyone who claims to play God and condone homosexuality is leading homosexuals straight on the path to hell and will be held accountable for that. It's that simple.

 

[Autodidact]

Only God can tell us what sin is because He made the laws and breaking His law is called sin. And God's laws are as irrevocable is the 'laws of nature." Therefore, anyone who claims to play God and condone homosexuality is leading homosexuals straight on the path to hell and will be held accountable for that. It's that simple.

Where to begin? First, you would have to establish that there is a God, and that you know who that is. Next, show that God has laws, and that you know what they are. Also show there is a hell, and that you know how to get there. To do that you will first have to show there is life after death. Finally, assuming that you are referring to the Bible (just taking a wild guess from your posting style) please cite God's law against lesbianism.

Only God can tell us what sin is because She made the laws and breaking Her law is called sin. And God's laws are as irrevocable as the 'laws of nature.' Therefore, anyone who claims to play God and tell anyone else what God's laws are is leading them straight on the path to hell and will be held accountable for that. It's that simple--and that wrong.

 

[Carico]

Where to begin? First, you would have to establish that there is a God, and that you know who that is. Next, show that God has laws, and that you know what they are. Also show there is a hell, and that you know how to get there. To do that you will first have to show there is life after death. Finally, assuming that you are referring to the Bible (just taking a wild guess from your posting style) please cite God's law against lesbianism.

Only God can tell us what sin is because She made the laws and breaking Her law is called sin. And God's laws are as irrevocable as the 'laws of nature.' Therefore, anyone who claims to play God and tell anyone else what God's laws are is leading them straight on the path to hell and will be held accountable for that. It's that simple--and that wrong.

One can't prove that the world is round to a blind man but that doesn't at all mean that it can't be proven that the world is round.

Considering that you have to make up a history of your imagination and claim that nothing in the universe is ordered in order to deny God, then that proves that one has to be irrational to deny God.

Nevertheless, God doesn't cater to irrational people. His laws are crystal clear and you know where to find them. So you're without excuse. Sorry.

 

[Sunstone]

Nevertheless, God doesn't cater to irrational people. His laws are crystal clear and you know where to find them. So you're without excuse. Sorry.

Your words are confusing. Are trying to assert that your god doesn't cater to you?

 

[Carico]

Your words are confusing. Are trying to assert that your god doesn't cater to you?

I noticed that you didn't include the rest of my post. So I think you understood it very well or you would have included my statements on what is irrational. Their exclusion was thus deliberate which means that you did understand my post.

 

[Sunstone]

I noticed that you didn't include the rest of my post. So I think you understood it very well or you would have included my statements on what is irrational. Their exclusion was thus deliberate which means that you did understand my post.

I thought your statements on irrationality were themselves irrational.

 

[Carico]

I thought your statements on irrationality were themselves irrational.

So then I take it you think that one should make up a history of his imagination which would mean that history is a figment of people's imagination. Is that correct? If so, then that's the definition of a delusion. But then delusional people always think they're rational. One needs medication to see that his beliefs have to be documented in outside reality in order to be considered sane. So you need to try medication.

 

[Sunstone]

So then I take it you think that one should make up a history of his imagination...

You show me where Autodidact has made up an imaginary history.

 

[Carico]

You show me where Autodidact has made up an imaginary history.

You can find him in the Evolution section of the science category in a thread entitled "The Darwin Delusion."

 

[Sunstone]

You can find him in the Evolution section of the science category in a thread entitled "The Darwin Delusion."

If you are suggesting that the Theory of Evolution is an imaginary story, then that is simply irrational.

 

[Carico]

If you are suggesting that the Theory of Evolution is an imaginary story, then that is simply irrational.

what's irrational is believing that animals can turn into people, especially imaginary animals. But people who can't think for themselves believe anything that's popular which is of course, how myths become popular.

 

[HouseofIsrael]

For me, the primary function of sex is sharing love. That may be all there is to it, but I find it quite enough.

Don't you wanna have kids?