Is prostitution "immoral"?

[CynthiaCypher]

Excuse me? I never said any of that. You presume that because I don't view sex as always something to be "special" that it's merely a commodity. The meaning behind a sex act hinges on the relationship of those involved, not on the act itself.

And regardless of what you try to say now don't think for one moment we don't see that you were indeed insinuating that those who don't agree with you don't have morals.

Can I ask you a few serious questions before we continue sniping at each other?

 

[Gjallarhorn]

I am putting decent working women out of a job? And by the way my values aren't baseless.

Care to present evidence or perhaps a logical deduction of how prostitution is inherently objectifying then? Or why it is ALWAYS objectifying or immoral when the prostitute is a woman?

 

[Draka]

Can I ask you a few serious questions before we continue sniping at each other?

Sure, if I can "answer" like you "answer" mine.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Care to present evidence or perhaps a logical deduction of how prostitution is inherently objectifying then? Or why it is ALWAYS objectifying or immoral when the prostitute is a woman?

Care to provide evidence on how I am personally putting decent working women out of a job?

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Sure, if I can "answer" like you "answer" mine.

I answered you. So now may I ask? I am trying to be polite now.

 

[Gjallarhorn]

Care to provide evidence on how I am personally putting decent working women out of a job?

Your baseless beliefs are denying women a valid source of income. You personally might not do much but whine about women's rights (while actually being rather sexist, IMO), but there are others that use the same statements to put people out of a job.

 

[Father Heathen]

I have enjoyed this thread. opcorn:

 

[Pegg]

I will admit your arguments bored me so I stopped paying attention for a good 10 pages or so, but as far as I know not a single woman that has commented in this thread has agreed with you.

*cough* raises hand

 

[Pegg]

Your baseless beliefs are denying women a valid source of income. You personally might not do much but whine about women's rights (while actually being rather sexist, IMO), but there are others that use the same statements to put people out of a job.

you cant honestly believe that selling your body for sex is a 'valid source of income' can you?

would you want to see your mother or sisters or daughters do that to themselves just so they can pay the rent? What that says is that the bills are of more value then a womans body. Or material things, perishable items, hold more value then a woman (or man for that matter). And if thats the case, then I would have to say that anyone who supports prostitution have the mindset of primitive people who viewed women as of less value then cattle.

I know we live in a materialistic world, but isnt that one of the major problems with the world today...everyone is out to cash in on something. Life looses its meaning when everyone is chasing the mighty dollar...they are even cashing in their own value as a person. Its very sad.

 

[Zoe Doidge]

you cant honestly believe that selling your body for sex is a 'valid source of income' can you?

There’s a clear demand for it and it makes money, so why not?

would you want to see your mother or sisters or daughters do that to themselves just so they can pay the rent?

As long as they were safe and actually wanted to I wouldn’t have a problem with it.

What that says is that the bills are of more value then a womans body. Or material things, perishable items, hold more value then a woman (or man for that matter). And if thats the case, then I would have to say that anyone who supports prostitution have the mindset of primitive people who viewed women as of less value then cattle.

I know we live in a materialistic world, but isnt that one of the major problems with the world today...everyone is out to cash in on something. Life looses its meaning when everyone is chasing the mighty dollar...they are even cashing in their own value as a person. Its very sad.

Not that I agree but it doesn’t matter. That is for us to decide as individuals.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

You're making it sound worse than it actually is when you say "selling your body for sex" because 1 you are not selling your body, you are letting a person have sex with you, that doesn't necessarily mean you become a lifeless object for about an hour until their finished. 2 You are only giving sex, not your body. 3... well.. I just thought I'd add it in here because only a 1 and a 2 is pretty pointless.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

You're making it sound worse than it actually is when you say "selling your body for sex" because 1 you are not selling your body, you are letting a person have sex with you, that doesn't necessarily mean you become a lifeless object for about an hour until their finished. 2 You are only giving sex, not your body. 3... well.. I just thought I'd add it in here because only a 1 and a 2 is pretty pointless.

And sex for normal people involves what if not a body? So yes it is basically renting out an biological organ, a body part.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

And sex for normal people involves what if not a body? So yes it is basically renting out an biological organ, a body part.

When you're buying a vacuum cleaner, are you buying the truck that brings it to your house?

 

[CynthiaCypher]

When you're buying a vacuum cleaner, are you buying the truck that brings it to your house?

So the woman is the truck delivering the organ so to speak?

 

[The Sum of Awe]

So the woman is the truck delivering the organ so to speak?

Delivering the sex actually

 

[CynthiaCypher]

Delivering the sex actually

Thanks for dehumanizing the woman.

So tell me have you personally ever paid for sexual entertainment be it porn or a lap dance or maybe a prostitute?

Be honest now, there is nothing to be ashamed of now is there?

 

[McBell]

Thanks for dehumanizing the woman.

So tell me have you personally ever paid for sexual entertainment be it porn or a lap dance or maybe a prostitute?

Be honest now, there is nothing to be ashamed of now is there?

your desperation is showing.

Are you already reduced to attempts at humiliation of others?

Or are you merely looking for some lame excuse to dismiss another someone who has shown you up?

or did you already forget your claim that not being a woman means their opinion means diddly?
Though you also moved that goal post by claiming they have to also be considered a sister to you, by you....

So I have to wonder why you are continually engaging in dialog with people who you so freely dismiss as not having diddly for opinions...

Are you looking for choir members?

 

[Revoltingest]

And sex for normal people involves what if not a body? So yes it is basically renting out an biological organ, a body part.

Just an organ? Clearly, you have no experience being or using a hooker.
(Neither do I, but that won't stop me from pretending to be an expert.)
I'm sure there are differences between the various types, ranging from true pros who are artists to competent artisans to low class chippies.
To describe a typical pro more precisely, the prostitute's services generally involve....
- She plays a role, using her mind just like an actor in a play, eg, reciting lines, reading the audience's reaction.
- She performs manual labor type service using various parts of her body, as would a masseuse or dancer.
- She dresses (& undresses) the part, just like a model.
- She listens to the client's concerns, just as a psychotherapist or bartender.

Tis OK with me to believe it's immoral, but we should be accurate in describing exactly what we're discussing.

I say it's immoral when women fail to wear a skimpy French maid's costume while doing the nasty.
But I won't impose this faith upon others.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

your desperation is showing.

Are you already reduced to attempts at humiliation of others?

Or are you merely looking for some lame excuse to dismiss another someone who has shown you up?

or did you already forget your claim that not being a woman means their opinion means diddly?
Though you also moved that goal post by claiming they have to also be considered a sister to you, by you....

So I have to wonder why you are continually engaging in dialog with people who you so freely dismiss as not having diddly for opinions...

Are you looking for choir members?

So how about you? Have you ever paid for it? Nothing to be ashamed of, right?

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Thanks for dehumanizing the woman.

So tell me have you personally ever paid for sexual entertainment be it porn or a lap dance or maybe a prostitute?

Be honest now, there is nothing to be ashamed of now is there?

No, too young yet

Please explain how I dehumanized the woman, maybe I did, just asking, if I have though sorry. Would like to see what I did to dehumanize females though.