Is prostitution "immoral"?

[CynthiaCypher]

No, too young yet

Please explain how I dehumanized the woman, maybe I did, just asking, if I have though sorry. Would like to see what I did to dehumanize females though.

Well you divorced the person from the act for one thing. To you she is a means to an end like a machine. She the means to provide you with sex and whether she is a person is irrelevant.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

Well you divorced the person from the act for one thing. To you she is a means to an end like a machine. She the means to provide you with sex and whether she is a person is irrelevant.

It was just an example.

Here's a better example since calling prostitutes trucks seem to disappoint a few:

When you pay a Pharmacist to get you drugs, are you buying the Pharmacist?

 

[McBell]

So how about you? Have you ever paid for it? Nothing to be ashamed of, right?

So NOW my opinion means more than diddly?

:biglaugh:

Yeppers, your desperation is most definitely showing.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

No, too young yet

Please explain how I dehumanized the woman, maybe I did, just asking, if I have though sorry. Would like to see what I did to dehumanize females though.

And since you're too young, please don't. The men who have to pay for sex are generally creeps. See for yourself:

Men Who Buy Sex

The Growing Demand for Prostitution - The Daily Beast

 

[CynthiaCypher]

It was just an example.

Here's a better example since calling prostitutes trucks seem to disappoint a few:

When you pay a Pharmacist to get you drugs, are you buying the Pharmacist?

Does pharmacy involve genital contact?

 

[Sleeppy]

That's an answer? To what? Can you simply give a yes or no answer and say why?

Immoral.. This guy puts it perfectly.

Sex: God, Gross, or Gift? | Mars Hill Church

 

[The Sum of Awe]

And since you're too young, please don't. The men who have to pay for sex are generally creeps. See for yourself:

Men Who Buy Sex

The Growing Demand for Prostitution - The Daily Beast

That, to me, seems a bit like stereotyping.

Does pharmacy involve genital contact?

No, but why bring this point up now and not when I mentioned the truck? It was irrelevant to my point "Women are not selling their body, they're selling sex" therefore it still is now.

 

[dawny0826]

Is prostitution "immoral" to you, and why or why not?


To me, it's not. As long as the person doing so has made the choice to do so fully aware of what they are doing and is taking proper precautions against spreading disease, then I don't really see an issue with it. Now, pimping and coerced/forced prostitution is an entirely different thing to me and I do find those wrong. Prostitution itself though, no...I don't believe it to be "immoral".

And yes...I put "immoral" in quotes as I find morality to be highly subjective.

I wouldn't label it immoral and if all are responsible, give consent and there isn't violence involved - I don't take issue with it from a legal perspective.

I do question the happiness of those who choose prostitution over other professions. I'd find something horribly empty and demeaning about such a "job", as a woman. It's a personal choice and I can respect that, but I don't understand the individual who chooses that. Money wouldn't be enough motivation for me. At the end of the day, I'd feel like meat.

I'm not passing judgement. I simply ponder.

 

[Draka]

I just want to say that this whole argument being presented is ironic coming from someone with a certain sig line. Someone has a sig line about pasties and a dancer and they are worried about sexual exploitation of women? It's more than ironic, it's laughable.

 

[Drolefille]

I just want to say that this whole argument being presented is ironic coming from someone with a certain sig line. Someone has a sig line about pasties and a dancer and they are worried about sexual exploitation of women? It's more than ironic, it's laughable.

If we weren't so lacking in morals and values maybe we'd get it. :faint:

Guess which supports the patriarchy more:
A) Supporting safe, consensual prostitution on the grounds that women have the right to control their bodies
B) Deeming some women as lacking morals or values because they disagree with you.

 

[Guitar's Cry]

Every worker's body is exploited.

I don't see prostitution as immoral if it is consensual.

 

[Pegg]

No, too young yet

Please explain how I dehumanized the woman, maybe I did, just asking, if I have though sorry. Would like to see what I did to dehumanize females though.

women are emotionally attached to their bodies...i dont know why but we are. Thats why women want to wear nice clothing .,..if they look beautiful they feel beautiful inside and this makes them happy.

So our physiology is linked to our psychology. When women have sex, their psychology is affected and they tend to become emotionally involved. Im not saying prostitutes become emotionally involved, but women in general are emotional by nature and our body is a part of that. Thats why when a woman is raped, she becomes emotionally distraught because the abuse that has taken place to her body affects her psychologically.

When a woman prostitutes herself she must detach her natural psychology from her physiology. So really, the act of prostitution itself dehumanizes the woman because she must be detached from her body to perform the act.

 

[Drolefille]

women are emotionally attached to their bodies...i dont know why but we are. Thats why women want to wear nice clothing .,..if they look beautiful they feel beautiful inside and this makes them happy.

So our physiology is linked to our psychology. When women have sex, their psychology is affected and they tend to become emotionally involved. Im not saying prostitutes become emotionally involved, but women in general are emotional by nature and our body is a part of that. Thats why when a woman is raped, she becomes emotionally distraught because the abuse that has taken place to her body affects her psychologically.

When a woman prostitutes herself she must detach her natural psychology from her physiology. So really, the act of prostitution itself dehumanizes the woman because she must be detached from her body to perform the act.

Men who are raped are also traumatized because the abuse to their bodies is equally psychologically disturbing.

Your assumption that this is due to a unique quality of women is wrong. I'd argue that most people - men and women - cannot disconnect emotions from sex to the extent that it makes prostitution a healthy choice. But we're not talking about something that most women will do, we're talking about some women.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

women are emotionally attached to their bodies...i dont know why but we are. Thats why women want to wear nice clothing .,..if they look beautiful they feel beautiful inside and this makes them happy.

So our physiology is linked to our psychology. When women have sex, their psychology is affected and they tend to become emotionally involved. Im not saying prostitutes become emotionally involved, but women in general are emotional by nature and our body is a part of that. Thats why when a woman is raped, she becomes emotionally distraught because the abuse that has taken place to her body affects her psychologically.

When a woman prostitutes herself she must detach her natural psychology from her physiology. So really, the act of prostitution itself dehumanizes the woman because she must be detached from her body to perform the act.

They would be unless they enjoy it, I know that women wouldn't mind having sex with more than one partner, in fact many in today's world prefer it.

Adultery is common, therefore it must be in fact, fun for some.

So saying prostitutes wouldn't enjoy it isn't absolutely true, unless they're forced to, but they are not forced unless they are kidnapped, but that's not when they applied for the job so.... Having legality would not affect that.

 

[Pegg]

They would be unless they enjoy it, I know that women wouldn't mind having sex with more than one partner, in fact many in today's world prefer it.

Adultery is common, therefore it must be in fact, fun for some.

enjoyable or not, a prostitute still has to disconnect her emotional self from her body
she does not get emotionally involved with strangers..she is thinking only of the money.

Adultery on the other hand usually is committed between friends and lovers...so an emotional connection is already there.

 

[The Sum of Awe]

enjoyable or not, a prostitute still has to disconnect her emotional self from her body
she does not get emotionally involved with strangers..she is thinking only of the money.

Adultery on the other hand usually is committed between friends and lovers...so an emotional connection is already there.

If she enjoys it that is part of her emotions, she doesn't feel emotionally sadness in it.

 

[Pegg]

If she enjoys it that is part of her emotions, she doesn't feel emotionally sadness in it.

you are probably aware that Jehovahs witnesses do a world wide door to door preaching work. In that work we meet people from all walks of life. I personally have met many prostitutes. We actually had a ministry where we went to brothels and to street workers and i've spent quite a lot of time with many.

I can state from my experience that most of them were not happy ladys. Many had serious issues and they lived difficult lives. They were earning a lot of money, but for most of them the money was for drugs...and they needed drugs to keep doing the work they were doing. Perhaps you should spend some time with some prostitutes and find out a bit about their life before you draw a conclusion on their line of work being enjoyable. Perhaps you are thinking that sex is enjoyable so she must be enjoying it...well that is quite far from the truth.

 

[CynthiaCypher]

you are probably aware that Jehovahs witnesses do a world wide door to door preaching work. In that work we meet people from all walks of life. I personally have met many prostitutes. We actually had a ministry where we went to brothels and to street workers and i've spent quite a lot of time with many.

I can state from my experience that most of them were not happy ladys. Many had serious issues and they lived difficult lives. They were earning a lot of money, but for most of them the money was for drugs...and they needed drugs to keep doing the work they were doing. Perhaps you should spend some time with some prostitutes and find out a bit about their life before you draw a conclusion on their line of work being enjoyable. Perhaps you are thinking that sex is enjoyable so she must be enjoying it...well that is quite far from the truth.

Pegg I so totally love you! People should learn what the real women in this field actually experience and go through and what they actually think of the "johns"

 

[Pegg]

Pegg I so totally love you! People should learn what the real women in this field actually experience and go through and what they actually think of the "johns"

I've never known anyone who knows anything about the sex industry who glamorizes it. The people who see it from a spectators perspective only see the beautiful women all dressed up with makeup and high heels 'playing a role'

but the reality is far different. I was really sad for one lady who told me that she used to scrub her body every night...literally scrubbed her self down.

 

[nnmartin]

And since you're too young, please don't. The men who have to pay for sex are generally creeps. See for yourself:

Men Who Buy Sex

from link:

Both sex buyers and non-sex buyers agreed that the most effective deterrent to buying sex would be to be placed on a registry of sex offenders.Spending time in jail was considered an effective deterrent by 80% of sex buyers and 83% of non-sex buyers. Educational programs were considered the least effective deterrent by both groups of men.

so do you actually agree with this paragraph taken from the linked article?

this sounds pretty totalitarian to me - since when does buying sex off a consensual prostitute entitle one to jail time or be put on a sex-offenders register?

how about the sex-workers - would they be locked up too and named and shamed?

as I asked before, what can these women do for money if they have no customers?