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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

paarsurrey

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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 73: Al-Muzzammil [2]

[73:11]And bear patiently all that they say; and part with them in a decent manner.
[73:12]And leave Me alone with those who rejectthe truth, possessors of ease and plenty; and give them a little respite.
[73:13]Surely, with Us areheavyfetters and aragingfire,
[73:14]And food that chokes, and a painful punishment —
[73:15]On the day when the earth and the mountains shall quake, and the mountains will become like crumbling sandhills.
[73:16]Verily, We have sent to you a Messenger, who is a witness over you, even as We sent a Messenger to Pharaoh.
[73:17]But Pharaoh disobeyed the Messenger, so We seized him with a terrible seizing.
[73:18]How will you then, if you disbelieve, guard yourselves against a day which will turn children greyheaded?
[73:19]On that daythe heaven will be rent asunderandHis promise will be fulfilled.
[73:20]This, surely, is a reminder. So let him, who will, take a way unto his Lord.
[73:21]Surely, thy Lord knows that thou standest upprayingfor nearly twothirds of the night, andsometimeshalf or a third thereof, and also a party of those who are with thee. And Allah determines the measure of the night and the day. He knows that you cannot keep itsmeasure, so He has turned to you in mercy. Recite, then, as much of the Qur’an as is easyfor you. He knows that there will be some among you who may be sick and others who may travel in the land seeking Allah’s bounty, and others who may fight in the cause of Allah. So recite of it that which is easyfor you, and observe Prayer, and pay the Zakat, and lend to Allah a goodly loan. And whatever good you send on before you for your souls, you will find it with Allah. Itwill bebetter and greater in reward. And seek forgiveness of Allah. Surely, Allah is Most For-giving, Merciful.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=73&verse=21

Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.

In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link also provided by the poster, saying this; sinceMuhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.

Regards
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah

The Holy Quran : Chapter 73: Al-Muzzammil [1]

[73:1]In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[73:2]O thou who art bearinga heavy responsibility,
[73:3]Stand upin Prayerat night except a small portion thereof —
[73:4]Half of it, or make it a little less than that
[73:5]Or make it a little more than that — and recite the Qur’an slowly and thoughtfully.
[73:6]Verily, We are charging thee with a weighty Word.
[73:7]Verily, getting up at night is the most potent means of subduing the self and most effective in respect of words of prayer.
[73:8]Thou hast indeed, during the day,along chain of engagements.
[73:9]So remember the name of thy Lord, and devote thyself to Him with full devotion.
[73:10]He is the Lord of the East and the West; there is no God but He; so take Him as thy Guardian.


www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=73

Please prove that these verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.

Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.

Regards
No one claims that the Quran copied from the Torah or the Bible. It took oral stories that were well known at the time of its creation, which also ended up being in the collection of books referred to as the Torah and the Bible.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

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The verse that I referred to is the verse: If you are in doubt, which We have sent down to you, ask those who read the book before you have the right to come to you from your Lord is not among the doubters {Yunus: 94}.
ان كنت في شك مما انزلنا اليك فاسال الذين يقراؤون الكتاب من قبلك
Ask the people of Remembrance if you do not know [the prophets: 7].
اسالوا اهل الذكر ان كنتم لا تعلمون
Two of the states of the verses of the Koran
The first is a private in Mohammed
And Walthanih is to Muslims
And here to prove that Muhammad was based on the book was present before him
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
I feel that all religions have taken what they want and formed their own belief systems, Christianity did it, and of course all other religions have done it.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

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No one claims that the Quran copied from the Torah or the Bible. It took oral stories that were well known at the time of its creation, which also ended up being in the collection of books referred to as the Torah and the Bible.
All accounts in the Koran is not from oral knowledge
But there is historical evidence to prove that Muhammad was training at the hands of a priest and was the pastor is named in Mecca and Arkh son Nawfal
This pastor was Alencranih range in Mecca
He was working on the translation of the Hebrew Bible into Arabic
This pastor Alencrani attended the marriage of Khadija Mohammed decrees
After the death of the pastor after this revelation
Any lost Revelation
There is a state in the Koran refers to it let alone what the Lord and fried)
Sahih Bukhari



Then did not break out a paper that died after a period of revelation even melancholy Prophet, peace be upon him with sorrow tomorrow we reached him repeatedly to deteriorate from the heads of the more fuller Hoahq mountains peak Mount in order to cast him to show him the same Mohammed Jibril said, you are the Messenger of God really dwell so composure and recognizes himself is attributable If affected by the revelation of such period tomorrow, if the peak of Mount fuller show him Jibril said to him, such as that ( unconformity mornings) the sun during the day and moonlight at night light
For that Allen can not say that Muhammad did not know the Gospel
The Hebrew Bible he knew Muhammad
Each Meccan verses are translated to this Gospel
For more Mkalah book and the Prophet and author priest named Abu Musa al-Hariri
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

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This pastor attended the marriage of Khadija Mohammed decrees
It is used to read the books Biography of the Prophet knows the importance of this pastor Alencrani
The first phase of Islam in Mecca was a translation of the Hebrew Bible to transfer
But in Medina became the verses of another kind
It states the power and the sword
That is why Muslims are working to blur and hide these stories so that people did not know what Islam
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

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I feel that all religions have taken what they want and formed their own belief systems, Christianity did it, and of course all other religions have done it.
Christianity depends on Judaism
Christ said he did not even come eliminates the law, but he came up to complement the law
While Muslims deny it
They say that the Word of God
While it was in fact copied from an earlier wrote it with distortion and fraud and misleading
That is a contrast Verses
 

psychoslice

Veteran Member
Christianity depends on Judaism
Christ said he did not even come eliminates the law, but he came up to complement the law
While Muslims deny it
They say that the Word of God
While it was in fact copied from an earlier wrote it with distortion and fraud and misleading
That is a contrast Verses
Yes they all did it and why not, truth is truth, no matter where it comes from.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

Well-Known Member
Christ completed the Ten Commandments
When you said love your neighbor like yourself
While Muhammad break these commandments when he announced orders the killing and fighting
 

leibowde84

Veteran Member
All accounts in the Koran is not from oral knowledge
But there is historical evidence to prove that Muhammad was training at the hands of a priest and was the pastor is named in Mecca and Arkh son Nawfal
This pastor was Alencranih range in Mecca
He was working on the translation of the Hebrew Bible into Arabic
This pastor Alencrani attended the marriage of Khadija Mohammed decrees
After the death of the pastor after this revelation
Any lost Revelation
There is a state in the Koran refers to it let alone what the Lord and fried)
Sahih Bukhari



Then did not break out a paper that died after a period of revelation even melancholy Prophet, peace be upon him with sorrow tomorrow we reached him repeatedly to deteriorate from the heads of the more fuller Hoahq mountains peak Mount in order to cast him to show him the same Mohammed Jibril said, you are the Messenger of God really dwell so composure and recognizes himself is attributable If affected by the revelation of such period tomorrow, if the peak of Mount fuller show him Jibril said to him, such as that ( unconformity mornings) the sun during the day and moonlight at night light
For that Allen can not say that Muhammad did not know the Gospel
The Hebrew Bible he knew Muhammad
Each Meccan verses are translated to this Gospel
For more Mkalah book and the Prophet and author priest named Abu Musa al-Hariri
It seems like your own evidence goes against your initial claim. All this points to Muhammad knowing and using the old Hebrew stories.
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

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It is simply wrong. Hadith was collected 250/300 years after Muhammad.
Regards
I have not relied on the chatter
But I made three states
The first verse is a private addressed to Mohammed
If you are in doubt , O Muhammad, which sent down to you , ask who read the book before you
The question of who those who read the book before Mohammed Wi book is ?????
The second verse is a publicly to Muslims
Just ask the people of Aldkr that you do not know
Who are the people Aldkr
The third verse is talking about disruption revelation about Muhammad
It can not be the cause of the interruption of the revelation about Muhammad
But when you read the books of the reasons why we know down the cessation of Revelation
The reason is the death of the son of a cousin of Mohammed Nofal , who was teaching him the teachings of the Hebrew Bible
And also after the death of Ibn Nawfal Aptdat second phase of Islam, a migration to Madinah and the emergence of the teachings of jihad and fighting
 

mahasn ebn sawresho

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Yes true, but still ignorance is involved, not just the Koran but the Bible also.
There is a big difference between Christianity and Islam
Despite the evidence that the Koran is copied from a previous books by Muslims reject it
While we Christians say that the Bible was written by the disciples of Christ and the teachings of Christ and the Summary of the most important events in his life
So we do not lie
While Muslim is lying when he says that he came down from heaven
 
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