paarsurrey
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I always respect others.
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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
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Laudable. But if this is the case the fact it comes across otherwise can only be of use, as it permits you to reflect.
paarsurrey
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I could not understand later part of your post. Please illustrate and elaborate.
Thanks for your appreciation in the first part.
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Well I just mean that if you do respect everyone, then it must be useful for you to know that the way you interact with people can often make it seem like you don't. Because knowing that means you can sort it out.
paarsurrey
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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
The Holy Quran : Chapter 69: Al-Haqqah:[1]
[69:1]In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[69:2]The Inevitable!
[69:3]What is the Inevitable?
[69:4]And what should make thee know what the Inevitable is?
[69:5]The tribe ofThamud andthe tribe of‘Ad treated as a lie thesuddencalamity.
[69:6]Then, as for Thamud, they were destroyed with a violent blast.
[69:7]And as for ‘Ad, they were destroyed by a fierce roaring wind,
[69:8]Which He caused to blow against them for seven nights and eight days consecutively, so that thou mightest have seen the people therein lying prostrate, as though they were trunks of palm-trees fallen down.
[69:9]Dost thou see any remnant of them?
[69:10]And Pharaoh, and those who were before him, and the overthrown citiespersistentlycommitted sins.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=69
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
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The Holy Quran : Chapter 69: Al-Haqqah:[1]
[69:1]In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[69:2]The Inevitable!
[69:3]What is the Inevitable?
[69:4]And what should make thee know what the Inevitable is?
[69:5]The tribe ofThamud andthe tribe of‘Ad treated as a lie thesuddencalamity.
[69:6]Then, as for Thamud, they were destroyed with a violent blast.
[69:7]And as for ‘Ad, they were destroyed by a fierce roaring wind,
[69:8]Which He caused to blow against them for seven nights and eight days consecutively, so that thou mightest have seen the people therein lying prostrate, as though they were trunks of palm-trees fallen down.
[69:9]Dost thou see any remnant of them?
[69:10]And Pharaoh, and those who were before him, and the overthrown citiespersistentlycommitted sins.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=69
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
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psychoslice
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Who really cares where the Quran came from, its there, just like any other scripture, its up to you to believe in it our not, just like all the other scriptures throughout the world, its only when we believe our own scriptures is the truth, that we stuff up everything.
paarsurrey
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Well there is a difference. Quran confirms the truthfulness of the founders of other religions and binds Quran's followers to accept them truthful and makes it one of the basic articles of faith:
Articles of Faith
- Unity of God - http://www.alislam.org/books/study-of-islam/unity.html
- His Angels - http://www.alislam.org/books/study-of-islam/angels.html
- His Books - http://www.alislam.org/books/study-of-islam/books.html
- His Prophets - http://www.alislam.org/books/study-of-islam/prophets.html
- The Last Day - http://www.alislam.org/books/religiousknowledge/sec1.html#day-of-judgement
- Divine Decree - http://www.alislam.org/books/religiousknowledge/sec1.html#decree
Number 3 & 4 may be seen in this connection.
It is a peaceful approach. Right? Please
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psychoslice
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Yes but all scriptures say more or less that same thing, you are only saying yours is the true one, it really means nothing, all scriptures are written as if they are the true scripture, so no matter which you believe, it will seem to be the true one.
paarsurrey
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Not a correct generalization.
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psychoslice
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Maybe, but I think there is some truth in what I said.
paarsurrey
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To know the Truth, we Ahmadiyya Muslims hold inter-faith conferences, one may like to see my logo and signatures, please, no compulsion whatsoever.
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psychoslice
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Of course there should be love for all. but I am not talking about hating anyone, I am just saying no one no matter who holds the truth.
paarsurrey
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Is Quran copied from Jewish Bible/Torah? : Quran did not copy from Jewish Bible/Torah
The Holy Quran : Chapter 69: Al-Haqqah:[2]
[69:13]That We might make it a reminder for you, and that retaining ears might retain it.
[69:14]And when a single blast is sounded on the trumpet,
[69:15]And the earth and the mountains are heaved up and then crushed in a single crash,
[69:16]On that day will thegreatEvent come to pass.
[69:17]And the heaven will cleave asunder, and it will become frail that day.
[69:18]And the angels will bestandingon the sides thereof, and above them on that day eightangelswill bear the throne of thy Lord.
[69:19]On that day you will be presentedbefore God;andnone of your secrets will remain hidden.
[69:20]Then, as for him who is given his record in his right hand, he will say, ‘Come, read my record.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=69&verse=11
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
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The Holy Quran : Chapter 69: Al-Haqqah:[2]
[69:11]And they disobeyed the Messenger of their Lord, therefore He seized them — a severe seizing.
[69:12]Verily, when the waters rose high, We bore you in the boat,[69:13]That We might make it a reminder for you, and that retaining ears might retain it.
[69:14]And when a single blast is sounded on the trumpet,
[69:15]And the earth and the mountains are heaved up and then crushed in a single crash,
[69:16]On that day will thegreatEvent come to pass.
[69:17]And the heaven will cleave asunder, and it will become frail that day.
[69:18]And the angels will bestandingon the sides thereof, and above them on that day eightangelswill bear the throne of thy Lord.
[69:19]On that day you will be presentedbefore God;andnone of your secrets will remain hidden.
[69:20]Then, as for him who is given his record in his right hand, he will say, ‘Come, read my record.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=69&verse=11
Please prove that the above verses have been copied/plagiarized/adapted from Jewish Bible/Torah or any other religious revealed scripture in the world by quoting from that book, the reference and providing the link.
Just impossible to do it.
Quran is authored by G-d, it is the reality.
In terms of the notion "Koran dated to before Muhamad birth."and some of the pseudo scholars also , link provided by the poster, saying this. Since Muhammad could not have plagiarized Quran from the old scriptures before his own birth, it must be thrashed out by the said pseudo-scholars, pseudo-history and the pseudo-science all together evidencing on top-priority as to from which old scriptures Muhammad recited the above verses verbatim.
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paarsurrey
Veteran Member
Quran does include in it lasting teachings given to the past prophets that has similiarity with Quran and also gives teachings that are not found in the past prophets and it is reasonable:
[3:1]In the name of Allah, the Gracious, the Merciful.
[3:2]Alif Lam Mim.
[3:3]Allah is He beside Whom there is no God, the Living, the Self-Subsisting and All-Sustaining.
[3:4]He has sent down to thee the Book containing the truth and fulfilling that which precedes it; and He sent down the Torah and the Gospel
[3:5]Before this, as a guidance to the people; and He has sent down the Discrimination. Surely, those who deny the Signs of Allah shall have a severe punishment. And Allah is Mighty, Possessor of the power to requite.
[3:6]Surely, nothing in the earth or in the heaven is hidden from Allah.
[3:7]He it is Who fashions you in the wombs as He wills; there is no God but He, the Mighty, the Wise.
[3:8]He it is Who has sent down to thee the Book; in it there are verses that are decisive in meaning — they are the basis of the Book — and there are others that are susceptible of different interpretations. But those in whose hearts is perversity pursue such thereof as are susceptible of different interpretations, seeking discord and seekingwronginterpretation of it. And none knows itsrightinterpretation except Allah and those who are firmly grounded in knowledge; they say, ‘We believe in it; the whole is from our Lord.’ — And none heed except those gifted with understanding. —
[3:9]‘Our Lord, let not our hearts become perverse after Thou hast guided us; and bestow on us mercy from Thyself; surely, Thou alone art the Bestower.
http://www.alislam.org/quran/search2/showChapter.php?ch=3
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paarsurrey
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What is source of one's information?
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paarsurrey
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What is that influence? Please elaborate.
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paarsurrey
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Please quote from the Book of Mormon the claim and the reasons.
Joseph Smith does not claim to be prophet of G-d but prophet of Jesus.
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