Is the Far Right in America Morally Bankrupt?

[mcteethinator]

Neither side holds the monopoly on getting caught with their pants down.

I agree.

Under the careful eye of the spin doctors, the left is interested in alleviating the responsibility of a mother to bring her baby to term in an attempt to make her equal with her male counterpart who has sex with whoever whenever he likes with impunity.

What a lofty goal on the road to equality. So many should aspire to be like a dead beat father all the while calling it a choice. Teaching the art of ducking responsibility knows no boundaries.

Whoa, what a blatant generalization!

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In those cases, sure, if he's a manwhore then I have no prob with him paying child support. But a lot of times it's men who love their kids just as much as the mother who get to see their kids once or twice on weekends. Or men such as the above link.

I thought it was right-wing to complain about people not having equal treatment though. Affirmative action, etc. The type of feminism that justifies that is very left wing.

 

[Yerda]

This is what I consider "Far Right."

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That's bloody hideous.

 

[PureX]

Under the careful eye of the spin doctors, the left is interested in alleviating the responsibility of a mother to bring her baby to term in an attempt to make her equal with her male counterpart who has sex with whoever whenever he likes with impunity.

I have never met anyone who has that agenda. Never. And I have lived in a very big northern city for almost 25 years. I've never met one single person who was interested in alleviating a woman of her responsibilities as a woman. And I've never met one single person who's agenda was to encourage men to have sex with whoever, whenever he likes. Your characterization of the pro-choice agenda is absurd, ridiculous, and unfounded.

I dare you to find one single person who will corroborate your ridiculous characterization of their agenda, here. Just one.

 

[mcteethinator]

This is what I consider "Far Right."

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I consider that typical Republican hackery.

I consider this Far Right.

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[Aasimar]

Under the careful eye of the spin doctors, the left is interested in alleviating the responsibility of a mother to bring her baby to term in an attempt to make her equal with her male counterpart who has sex with whoever whenever he likes with impunity.

What a lofty goal on the road to equality. So many should aspire to be like a dead beat father all the while calling it a choice. Teaching the art of ducking responsibility knows no boundaries.

Yep. freedom of choice is a bugger isn't it.

 

[Mike182]

i voted somewhat.

i am sure there are people who believe according to the religious right and practice it, and it would be very wrong to paint the whole religious right with the same brush that likes to spread the dirt around it's not so moral leaders... but at the same time, yeah, you do have to accept that it's leaders are not up to scratch and in line with their own teachings.

 

[PureX]

i voted somewhat.

i am sure there are people who believe according to the religious right and practice it, and it would be very wrong to paint the whole religious right with the same brush that likes to spread the dirt around it's not so moral leaders... but at the same time, yeah, you do have to accept that it's leaders are not up to scratch and in line with their own teachings.

But the question wasn't about the "whole right", it was about the "far right".

 

[PureX]

I consider that typical Republican hackery.

I consider this Far Right.

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The nazis were fascists, not socialists.

 

[mcteethinator]

The nazis were fascists, not socialists.

I know that? Nazi is short for National Socialist. That was just the name of the video?

My original point = fascism is far right, not republicans.

 

[PureX]

I know that? Nazi is short for National Socialist. That was just the name of the video?

My original point = fascism is far right, not republicans.

I agree, but some republicans are so far to the right that they're essentially fascists.

 

[mcteethinator]

I agree, but some republicans are so far to the right that they're essentially fascists.

I'm afraid I'll have to agree with you there.

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

Is the Far Right in America morally bankrupt?

In the first place, It seems like so many of their leaders have been caught with their pants down in recent months -- Senator Vitter with prostitutes, Senator Craig soliciting men in restrooms, Mrs. Roberts, the daughter in law of Oral Roberts, lusting after underage males -- to name a very few.

In the second place, it seems like the Far Right is supporting numerous policies that have resulted in suffering for both Americans and people abroad. Such as a war in Iraq, abstinence only sexuality education, opposition to doing anything about global warming, etc.

So, is the Far Right morally bankrupt?

The Far Right went morally bankrupt long before any of these episodes took place. These are just the final nails in the coffin, IMO.

The Far Right claims to be "pro-life," yet they support capital punishment, wars of aggression, and the destruction of life-saving social programs.

The Far Right claims to be "pro-family," yet they are soft on child abuse, worker exploitation, and the rising cost of living; and they openly defend discrimination.

The Far Right claims to have their facts straight, yet they militantly oppose the sciences of evolution, the environment, and human sexuality.

The Far Right claims to be "pro-education," yet they continually attempt to siphon money out of an already underfunded system (don't get me started, people), which drains resources from an underpaid teacher workforce, BASIC supplies for the classroom, and projects that could significantly increase student interest and thus performance. Instead, they claim that the real problems in school are "no God in the classrooms," school prayer, the teaching of evolution, and comprehensive sex ed are the real threats to America's education system.

The Far Right raises hell when a moderate, progressive, or libertarian politician commits even a minor foul. But when a conservative politician guts the Pell Grant program, vetoes a bill that would give poor children basic health care, declares that he has the right to spy on honest American citizens, bypasses the Geneva Convention, and instigates and militantly defends one of the most moronic wars in the history of the nation, among many other sins, the Far Right pretends not to even notice.

John Dean was right. The Far Right are indeed conservatives without conscience.

 

[Mercy Not Sacrifice]

This is what I consider "Far Right."

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That is it right there. That is what it means to be a White, heterosexual, American, Far-Right conservative.

And Rev. Rick, I know it feels like you're being cornered here--which, from your POV, you probably are--but isn't it an indirect confession to attempt to point fingers at the Far Left? It's like a kid who got caught shoving someone on the playground pointing to someone halfway across the field and crying, "He did it too!"

I'm sorry, Rick. The Right just isn't nearly as squeaky-clean as you and most other social conservatives believe it to be.

 

[Reverend Rick]

That is it right there. That is what it means to be a White, heterosexual, American, Far-Right conservative.

And Rev. Rick, I know it feels like you're being cornered here--which, from your POV, you probably are--but isn't it an indirect confession to attempt to point fingers at the Far Left? It's like a kid who got caught shoving someone on the playground pointing to someone halfway across the field and crying, "He did it too!"

I'm sorry, Rick. The Right just isn't nearly as squeaky-clean as you and most other social conservatives believe it to be.

Protecting our country is a dirty job and sometimes you get some dirt under your fingernails. I look at Rumsfeld and Cheney as junk yard dogs who are on our side looking out for our best interest. Some of the touchy feely crowd just don't understand that everything is not peachy and no matter how much this country does an 180, the world will still call us the great Satan and want to kill us.

I don't care if you leave Iraq send them some money and apologise to them and agree with them, they will slit your throat the first chance they get. I live in the real world. I don't believe the terrorists are ready to ride the love train with us ever.

 

[nutshell]

I look at Rumsfeld and Cheney as junk yard dogs who are on our side looking out for our best interest.

Wow. That statement tells me all I need to know about you and your POV.

 

[Scuba Pete]

How do you know you are "Far Right"? You think Anne Coulter and Rush Limbaugh are "right" most of the time. Those who do so, are morally bankrupt by definition as well as by association.

 

[Mathematician]

Protecting our country is a dirty job and sometimes you get some dirt under your fingernails. I look at Rumsfeld and Cheney as junk yard dogs who are on our side looking out for our best interest. Some of the touchy feely crowd just don't understand that everything is not peachy and no matter how much this country does an 180, the world will still call us the great Satan and want to kill us.

I don't care if you leave Iraq send them some money and apologise to them and agree with them, they will slit your throat the first chance they get. I live in the real world. I don't believe the terrorists are ready to ride the love train with us ever.

Our country hasn't been under serious threat since World War 2, and that, like now, was a case of us making our own enemies. It all relates back to greed. We punished the Germans exceptionally hard where both sides were at fault. What happens? Hitler. We refused to recognize Vietnam democracy because a communist would be elected into office. What happens? The war. We used the Muslims after they trusted we'd help expel the Soviets. What happens? Bin Ladin.

 

[nutshell]

Our country hasn't been under serious threat since World War 2, and that, like now, was a case of us making our own enemies. It all relates back to greed. We punished the Germans exceptionally hard where both sides were at fault. What happens? Hitler. We refused to recognize Vietnam democracy because a communist would be elected into office. What happens? The war. We used the Muslims after they trusted we'd help expel the Soviets. What happens? Bin Ladin.

Your post contradicts itself, IMO.

You begin, "Our country hasn't been under serious threat since World War 2," and you end, "Bin Ladin."

It seems a little thing called 9/11 demonstrates that the country is under serious threat. You seem to be discussing the issue of "making our own enemies." The cause, however, is irrelevant to the effect that we have been under serious threat since World War 2.

 

[Mathematician]

Your post contradicts itself, IMO.

You begin, "Our country hasn't been under serious threat since World War 2," and you end, "Bin Ladin."

It seems a little thing called 9/11 demonstrates that the country is under serious threat. You seem to be discussing the issue of "making our own enemies." The cause, however, is irrelevant to the effect that we have been under serious threat since World War 2.

Bin Ladin isn't a threat. You have a better chance of being hit by lightning then being killed by terrorist. 9/11 was 1 in a million, quite literally. If we go to war with China, then I'll think we're under serious attack.

The same leaders protecting us are the people getting us into the mess in the first place! When will we realize this?

 

[gnomon]

Bin Ladin isn't a threat. You have a better chance of being hit by lightning then being killed by terrorist. 9/11 was 1 in a million, quite literally. If we go to war with China, then I'll think we're under serious attack.

More like 2 in a million.

And then there was a Cuban Missile crisis. Not to mention the near launch of nuclear armaments by the Soviet Union over a false alarm.

I also completely disagree with the current Iraq War and the administration. There is no reason to rewrite the past to justify that.