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Is there Really only one True Religion?

Walkntune

Well-Known Member
I realize that religion can be a positive force in the world, but the multitude of religions and the multitude of excellent people who span these religions demonstrates that the good is coming from a pyschological and emotional source inherent in all (peaceful) religions, rather than demonstrating the truth of what the religion is claiming, e.g. Jesus rose from the dead. They're just stories to illustrate an underlying message of peace, unity and brotherhood.

The part I disagree with is that it is not a psychological and emotional connection. In fact most religions practice becoming detached from all thoughts and feelings and quieting the mind in order to become aware of your own beingness in the now instead of being in the past and future in thoughts and feelings.Your emotions and thoughts are not who you are and can be let go of any time you want.Through this awareness of your beingness you also become instinctively and intuitively aware of the source you came from and are connected to.This is a perfect love and when you are there you realise that any thoughts good our bad causes separation from this source.
 

Walkntune

Well-Known Member
You two are most welcome to your opinions!

Ours differs.

Peace,

Bruce
I am not sure what you disagree with? I am not familiar with Baha'i but from what little I googled I like its concepts and the idea of it's spiritual unity. I did a wiki search and from it's description it seems to be addressing some of the same ideas I wrote and caught my interest.
 

9-10ths_Penguin

1/10 Subway Stalinist
Premium Member
Non sequitur. The fact that they contradict one another does not exclude the possibility that one is true.
Just thinking about it a bit...

If each religion has the same level of support, then this implies that we should assign all of them the same value for "likelihood of truth". If they conflict, then this implies that any value for "likelihood of truth" other than zero would create a logical paradox.

Therefore, I think it's reasonable to take the working position that all religions are false... although this would be a tentative position, subject to change if further evidence for one religion or another presented itself.
 

BruceDLimber

Well-Known Member
Hi, Walkntune!

Sorry if I was unclear! (I was disagreeing with something Penguin and Wolf had said.)

Please note that any interest and opinions you have are most welcome, as are any questions you may wish to ask!

Best regards, :)

Bruce
 
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Walkntune

Well-Known Member
Hi, Walkntune!

Sorry if I was unclear! (I was disagreeing with something Penguin and Wolf had said.)

Please note that any interest and opinions you have are most welcome, as are any questions you may wish to ask!

Best regards, :)

Bruce
It's quite alright and thanks for the invite!:)
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
Just thinking about it a bit...

If each religion has the same level of support, then this implies that we should assign all of them the same value for "likelihood of truth". If they conflict, then this implies that any value for "likelihood of truth" other than zero would create a logical paradox.

Therefore, I think it's reasonable to take the working position that all religions are false... although this would be a tentative position, subject to change if further evidence for one religion or another presented itself.

ok firstly you dont know if the all have the same likely hood of truth. Have you went through all the religion and checked to see if their God's are logical, or if their beliefs are sounds? of course to be sure of this you have to see their interpretation and arguements and definitions.

the you could work out whihc one is more likely and if what you believe is true.

that is of course if we even took what you said as being true although it is ignoring the fact all except one could simply just be wrong..
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Are they not all true...not all stepping stones to the same source?

No, to the contrary, they are all false (save one). Rather than stepping stones to God, they are on the "broad road leading to destruction". (Matthew 7:13,14)
The gods most religions worship are mere unrealities, and do not exist. How could worship of something unreal benefit their worshipers? More serious, false worship is actually worship of demons, wicked angels under Satan's control. “The things which the nations sacrifice they sacrifice to demons, and not to God.” (1 Corinthians 10:20) People would likely be shocked to think that they are worshiping demons. They think that they're worshiping a good god, or gods, of some kind. Yet, in reality they have been deceived by “wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places,” who support Satan in his efforts to mislead mankind.—Ephesians 6:12., Revelation 12:9-12
 

LuisDantas

Aura of atheification
Premium Member
No, to the contrary, they are all false (save one). Rather than stepping stones to God, they are on the "broad road leading to destruction". (Matthew 7:13,14)
The gods most religions worship are mere unrealities, and do not exist. How could worship of something unreal benefit their worshipers? More serious, false worship is actually worship of demons, wicked angels under Satan's control. “The things which the nations sacrifice they sacrifice to demons, and not to God.” (1 Corinthians 10:20) People would likely be shocked to think that they are worshiping demons. They think that they're worshiping a good god, or gods, of some kind. Yet, in reality they have been deceived by “wicked spirit forces in the heavenly places,” who support Satan in his efforts to mislead mankind.—Ephesians 6:12., Revelation 12:9-12

Sorry, but that is a rather contradictory stance, unless I am seriously misunderstanding you.

For it seems to me that you are claiming that the Bible is literally true, and so is the existence of Abraham's God. Yet at the same time you're claiming that even most people who agree with you on those two matters are in fact demon-worshippers bound to end up in Hell.

That is very much a self-defeating belief, to the point that it doesn't even matter whether there is any truth to it. For if it is true, then God is not worth recognizing to begin with.
 

tarasan

Well-Known Member
It can't help that your road is so narrow that even you can't agree among yourselves where it is.

wa:do

in christianity? nah only very few people believe that Christians go to heal for slight beliefs, there really is only a few doctrinesyou have to hold to be christian the rs are secodnary thoughts.
 

painted wolf

Grey Muzzle
in christianity? nah only very few people believe that Christians go to heal for slight beliefs, there really is only a few doctrinesyou have to hold to be christian the rs are secodnary thoughts.
Really? So, Martin Luther and the Pope would have agreed each was going to heaven?

It seems to me that if the "secondary" weren't so important then my small town wouldn't have 7 christian denominations in it each preaching they are the true church.

wa:do
 

Zadok

Zadok
If we are not looking for truth and right then it does not matter what church or religion we consider – it is not going to make a difference. If we are looking for truth and right there must be criteria for what is truth and right is so that we can determine if a religion or rejection of a religion qualifies as endorsement of truth and right. The problem is not a problem of religion but in method of thinking and searching.

I submit that those that seek selfish interests of self gratification and self wants will have a very different definition of truth and right than one that is disciplined and is willing to sacrifice selfish interests, self gratification and self wants for that which is the common good of all.

Zadok
 

rusra02

Well-Known Member
Premium Member
Sorry, but that is a rather contradictory stance, unless I am seriously misunderstanding you.

For it seems to me that you are claiming that the Bible is literally true, and so is the existence of Abraham's God. Yet at the same time you're claiming that even most people who agree with you on those two matters are in fact demon-worshippers bound to end up in Hell.

That is very much a self-defeating belief, to the point that it doesn't even matter whether there is any truth to it. For if it is true, then God is not worth recognizing to begin with.

I do not believe in a fiery hell where God supposedly tortures those who displease him. The Bible does not teach such a thing.

Mere belief that the God of Abraham exists is not real faith. This is what James 2:19 says, "You believe there is one God, do you? You are doing quite well. And yet the demons believe and shudder. But do you care to know, O empty man, that faith apart from works is inactive?"

The Bible clearly describes what is true and false worship. There are only two sides to this issue, God's and Satan's. Satan has used false religion for millenia to mislead mankind away from God and to him.

Speaking of churchgoers in the US and noting the increase in divorce, premarital sex, and abortions, pollster George Gallup Jr. said this: “Clearly the churches are not penetrating to the basic level of inculcating values. We are living religion on a very superficial level. It is not life-changing and redirecting. Nor is it biblically based.”

Just as calling oneself a doctor doesn't make one a doctor, so calling oneself a christian does not make one a christian.
 

jtartar

Well-Known Member
Well is there?

Yosef the Heretic,
Indeed there is only one religion that is acceptable to God, that He is blessing today.
Just because a person says he is of a religion does not mean that he IS. There are qualifications that must be fulfilled to prove a person is what he says he is, Titus 1:16. It is up to every person to search out that religion tha God is blessing, and join it, because it is the only way to survive the, very soon end of this system of things. Just like in Noah's day, ONE ARK, today only ONE faith will save you, Eph 4:4-6.
Allow me to point out a few qualifications for a religion to be the right one.
Consider 1Cor 1:10, which says that their should be no divisions in that religion, that they should all speak in agreement, and have the same line of thought. Do you know of any religion that teaches the exact doctrines in every nation of the earth??
Notice what Jesus said about the one true religion, John 13:34,35, which says that Jesus followers would be know by the LOVE they show.
Exactly opposite of what one might expect, it is not the religion that is looked up to, but is the religion that is looked down on, just like people looked down on Jesus,and his disciples, and killed most of them.Consider one very telling scripture, John 16:1-4, where we are told that people will split so much from true religious belief, that they will actually kill true believers, thinking that they have done a survice to God. Paul said that people will gather together teachers to have their ears tickled, because they do not want to hear the truth, 2Tim 4:2-5.
Notiuce that the true religion will have nothing to do with government. Jesus said that his kingdom is no part of this world, John 18:36,37. Jesus said that the world will hate his followers, in fact EVERY NATION ON EARTH will hate them, John 15:18-21, Matt 10:22, 24:9. Notice James 4:4, which says that anyone who loves the world is an ENEMY of God. We are told that the WORLD is people who do not care about God or God's requirements, 1Cor 5:9-11.
Consider John 4:23,24, which tell us that we MUST learn the TRUTH if we want to be accepted by God. 2Thes even tells us that the people who have no LOVE of the truth are destined for destruction, 2Thess 2:8-12. Would not a Super Clean God want His people to keep away from the things of the world, and pay attention to TRUTH?? Here is something that is almost unbelievable, but true!!! NOT ONE of the basic doctrines of the religions of the WORLD are based on the Bible, or even the Koran. Most of the beliefs of the WORLD are decinded from old Babyon, all PAGAN beliefs!! If you don't believe this, try researching any of the basic beliefs of your faith. Most of the false doctrines can even be found in any good encyclopedia.
Since we are to be footstep followers of Jesus, his followers would certainly not become involved in the wars of any nation. Jesus is the Prince of Peace, Isa 9:6,7. All true Christians are to SEEK peace and PURSUE it, 1Per 3:10-12, Rom 12:17,18. Consider what Jesus said in the Sermon on the Mount, recognized ae the single greatest sermon ever given, Matt 7:12, THE GOLDEN RULE, and 5:38,39,43-48.
Is there a religion tah lives up to all these requirements and even more??? There MUST BE. WE all must find it!!! If we want to survive the end of this system, now very NEAR!!!
 
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