Is there Really only one True Religion?

[glassman96]

One true religion that everyone can practice. From James1: 26, 27 - "Nobody must imagine that he is religious while he still goes on deceiving himself and not keeping control over his tongue; anyone who does this has the wrong idea of religion. Pure unspoilt religion, in the eyes of God our Father is this: coming to the help of orphans and widows when they need it and keeping oneself uncontaminated by the world."

 

[gruggle10]

for me, there is only one religion

all thing in this world must obey the physics law,such as the earth must follow their path around the sun,newtons law,e=mc^2 and any other law around us.

same thing goes to us,we must follow the law of the creator.everything around us follow all the laws,if there are not following the law,the intended things will never happen...if the earth not following the law, there is no day and night,no gravity, and the earth will destroy...there is something beyond our mind that can control all those things..,and the creator has set up the laws to be followed by us(which is the only religion)

think logically...
only human like to break the creator's law..sorry for my broken language.

 

[Cosmos]

Here is something that is almost unbelievable, but true!!! NOT ONE of the basic doctrines of the religions of the WORLD are based on the Bible, or even the Koran. Most of the beliefs of the WORLD are decinded from old Babyon, all PAGAN beliefs!! If you don't believe this, try researching any of the basic beliefs of your faith. Most of the false doctrines can even be found in any good encyclopedia.

I am unfortunately inclined to agree with him!:sorry1:

 

[painted wolf]

My faith is much older than Babylon... by at least 10,000 years.

wa:do

 

[Cosmos]

Well... Native American religion, as it is umbrella term to describe a long heritage of indigenous religious traditions of the Americas, actually has oral traditions narrating Babylon as the splitting of the human race into different races, languages, etc., and scattering across the planet.

That is Babylon in Native American history.

 

[painted wolf]

Well... Native American religion, as it is umbrella term to describe a long heritage of indigenous religious traditions of the Americas, actually has oral traditions narrating Babylon as the splitting of the human race into different races, languages, etc., and scattering across the planet.

That is Babylon in Native American history.

Not any nation I've ever studied. There are more about how each group was created indipendantly from each other.

But then, I've noticed Baha'i have some odd ideas on what First Nations people believe.

wa:do

 

[BruceDLimber]

Greetings!

I've noticed Baha'i have some odd ideas on what First Nations people believe.

Oh, really?

What exactly?

Peace,

Bruce

 

[painted wolf]

Well, this Babylonia thing for one... I believe they also preach some highly dubious information about a "bearded white man" coming to save the First Nations people.

wa:do

 

[dogsgod]

Well, this Babylonia thing for one... I believe they also preach some highly dubious information about a "bearded white man" coming to save the First Nations people.

wa:do

Don't ya know, First Nations people need a good ol' Yankee boy to save them, just like in the movie Avatar, and Dances with Wolves, and Grand Torino, and in all those movies where all kinds of people need a good ol' Yankee boy to save whoever needs savin' whether they want to be saved or not.

 

[LoTrobador]

I am unfortunately inclined to agree with him!:sorry1:

And what do you think about The Two Babylons by Rev. Alexander Hislop?

 

[Cosmos]

I am afraid I've never heard of that work, LoTrobador. What's it about?

Wolf, my friend, well, you know well that Natives speak of exactly what I described... that there were groups of people who independently formed in different races, languages, cultures, etc. I know they did not call it 'Babylon', as this is a Semitic narration of the history. The "bearded white man" I think is truly often misconstrued, as white is a symbol of purity, and if I am not mistaken the same figure--Quetzalcoatl to Aztecs and Viracocha to the Incans--are shown to be bearded (Viracocha anyway) but not as being white in complexion. No, this is a myth attributed only when the conquistadors came. Quetzalcoatl is known as the "Morning Star" and Viracocha means "Fat Sea" (of Wisdom), and Baha'is who actually study the mythologies of indigenous peoples, and are educated in their symbolism, believe that this personage was who we know in the Bible as Enoch, who is the seventh generation descendant of Adam, coming from Egypt with the sciences of astronomy and technologies able to construct pyramids across the globe. The whiteness is probably really a sign of purity that the Egyptian priesthood would wear, and also known for wearing beards, especially royalty. If all that sounds crazy, then please research the fact that there are Egyptian mummies found with (powdered) coca in them suggesting an Atlantic trade or contact between the Western and Eastern Hemispheres and the majority of all pyramids were build around the exact same time frame. Consider that Natives traditions do speak of a Great Man (Prophet of God) civilizing the peoples and bringing them salvation from the east and west of the continent. My fiance is also Native American descended, so she is also familiar at least with her own traditions to verify this truth. Anyways, I hope this cleared up some things.

 

[Etritonakin]

Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar; as it is written, That thou mightest be justified in thy sayings, and mightest overcome when thou art judged.

Jas 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before God and the Father is this, To visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep himself unspotted from the world.

Religion gives God a bad name.

God's religion is the one true religion -and there are specifics associated with it.
Universal peace does require that all adhere to God's religion -not one of many of man's religions (which can bear some similarity).
Many believe they follow God's religion, but have never really asked God sincerely.
All will eventually know what it is -what HE wants us to do.

Regardless of religious observances, he wants us to show mercy.

We all have a general idea of what is right and wrong, and we will be held accountable regardless of our knowledge of the specifics.

Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

 

[LoTrobador]

I am afraid I've never heard of that work, LoTrobador. What's it about?

The Two Babylons - Wikipedia

 

[painted wolf]

Wolf, my friend, well, you know well that Natives speak of exactly what I described... that there were groups of people who independently formed in different races, languages, cultures, etc.

Independent yes... That means that we were created as is... Not as one culture that split up.

and if I am not mistaken the same figure--Quetzalcoatl to Aztecs and Viracocha to the Incans--are shown to be bearded

Sorry, this is from a misinterpretation. The "beard" is part of the feathered headdress. There are no pre-colombian depictions showing beards.

the majority of all pyramids were build around the exact same time frame.

this is factually incorrect... the Egyptian pyramids were built thousands of years before the Mayan or Aztec ones were.
The step pyramid of Egypt was built in 24th century BC... the last built in 18th century BC... the oldest American pyramid wasn't built until 500 AD. We came up with the idea independently.

as for the cocaine... that has yet to be verified... the study done was seriously flawed.

Consider that Natives traditions do speak of a Great Man (Prophet of God) civilizing the peoples and bringing them salvation from the east and west of the continent.

I have heard no such stories... the closest is that of White Buffalo Woman".

wa:do

 

[Cosmos]

The Two Babylons - Wikipedia

:clap

Fantastic information, LoTrobador! The Establisher of the Baha'i Faith, Dr. Leland Jensen, speaks and writes in-depth on the subject, my friend. We acknowledge that Nimrod and his wife Semiramis are historical personages recorded in Babylonia who crafted the origins of the Trinitarian (Father-Mother-Son) religion. This we know to be directly connected to the Vatican (Roman Catholic) Church doctrines, and observed even in the modern Hindu Trinity.

 

[Cosmos]

Independent yes... That means that we were created as is... Not as one culture that split up.

Sorry, this is from a misinterpretation. The "beard" is part of the feathered headdress. There are no pre-colombian depictions showing beards.

this is factually incorrect... the Egyptian pyramids were built thousands of years before the Mayan or Aztec ones were.
The step pyramid of Egypt was built in 24th century BC... the last built in 18th century BC... the oldest American pyramid wasn't built until 500 AD. We came up with the idea independently.

as for the cocaine... that has yet to be verified... the study done was seriously flawed.

I have heard no such stories... the closest is that of White Buffalo Woman".

wa:do

Arguing discrepancies between cultural narratives is unimportant, dear friend. Essentially, the two tales are the same. Also, arguing over little details like, "There are no pre-colombian depictions showing beards" is also unimportant, as it does not acknowledge greater details like the fact Egyptians wore feathered head-dresses, as well. Furthermore, while there are many pyramids built as early as five centuries ago, that still says nothing about pyramid tombs found in Mexico dating 2,700 years old or temple complexes with evidences that the landscapes were used as sacred spots pre-dating many pyramids today (also in Egypt). This corresponds with a worldwide period of pyramid development from Ireland and Greece in Europe, China and Japan in Asia, Egypt and Abbysinia in Africa, to the Incan and Aztec civilizations in the Americas--all within a timeframe from 3000-2000 BC! The idea that anyone came upon this idea independently when history proves that there was a simultaneous advancement in mathematics, masonry, and astronomy directly related with pyramid technology, is propostrous! So, before claiming "We came up with the idea independently"... first we need verification you're of South American native descent, because I see you're mixing up oral traditions between North-South American tribes where the tale of a Prophet of God as a great personage of superhuman feats is well-documented. In any case, even in North American tribes, such as the Cherokee Tribe, of which my fiance is descended, there is a tradition of a similar civilizer who brings them their knowledge.

 

[BruceDLimber]

Well, this Babylonia thing for one... I believe they also preach some highly dubious information about a "bearded white man" coming to save the First Nations people.

So sorry, but I have no idea what "Babylonia" thing you're referring to! Please explain.

You got the Nativee American prophecy somewhat wrong, as I understand it: it's about a "bearded man wearing a white robe" who will offer salvation (not a white man as such, which is a different prophecy), and it's from the Aztec and Mayan cultures via Quetzalcoatl and Chilam Balam. (This is further explained at: www.bci.org/prophecy-fulfilled ) Nor am I aware that this is "dubious" (your term): it's been published in at least one book as well as on the Web and is apparently well documented.

Peace,

Bruce

 

[Zadok]

I am afraid I've never heard of that work, LoTrobador. What's it about?

Wolf, my friend, well, you know well that Natives speak of exactly what I described... that there were groups of people who independently formed in different races, languages, cultures, etc. I know they did not call it 'Babylon', as this is a Semitic narration of the history. The "bearded white man" I think is truly often misconstrued, as white is a symbol of purity, and if I am not mistaken the same figure--Quetzalcoatl to Aztecs and Viracocha to the Incans--are shown to be bearded (Viracocha anyway) but not as being white in complexion. No, this is a myth attributed only when the conquistadors came. Quetzalcoatl is known as the "Morning Star" and Viracocha means "Fat Sea" (of Wisdom), and Baha'is who actually study the mythologies of indigenous peoples, and are educated in their symbolism, believe that this personage was who we know in the Bible as Enoch, who is the seventh generation descendant of Adam, coming from Egypt with the sciences of astronomy and technologies able to construct pyramids across the globe. The whiteness is probably really a sign of purity that the Egyptian priesthood would wear, and also known for wearing beards, especially royalty. If all that sounds crazy, then please research the fact that there are Egyptian mummies found with (powdered) coca in them suggesting an Atlantic trade or contact between the Western and Eastern Hemispheres and the majority of all pyramids were build around the exact same time frame. Consider that Natives traditions do speak of a Great Man (Prophet of God) civilizing the peoples and bringing them salvation from the east and west of the continent. My fiance is also Native American descended, so she is also familiar at least with her own traditions to verify this truth. Anyways, I hope this cleared up some things.

There are indications that Jesus appeared in the Americas after his resurrection. You may want to consider Jesus rather than Enoch based on the time periods. Also the Bible indicates that King David was capable of reaching the Americas - it is possible the lost gold of Solomon was in the Americas.

Zadok

 

[LoTrobador]

:clap

Fantastic information, LoTrobador! The Establisher of the Baha'i Faith, Dr. Leland Jensen, speaks and writes in-depth on the subject, my friend. We acknowledge that Nimrod and his wife Semiramis are historical personages recorded in Babylonia who crafted the origins of the Trinitarian (Father-Mother-Son) religion. This we know to be directly connected to the Vatican (Roman Catholic) Church doctrines, and observed even in the modern Hindu Trinity.

Could you provide me with links to Dr. Jensen's writings on this subject? And what would you say about those articles:

Catholicism and Paganism - Is the Catholic Church the New Babylon?
Pagan Influence Fallacy
Did the Catholic Church Have Its Origin in Paganism? A Protestant pastor tells This Rock how he got involved in the issue and how his understanding of the issue has changed.
Hislop's 'Babylonian Mystery Religion' Teaching Exposed and Overturned. The Commendable Intellectual Honesty of Ralph Woodrow...
Message from Ralph Woodrow regarding the book BABYLON MYSTERY RELIGION
The Babylon Connection?
The Two Babylons: A Case Study in Poor Research Methodology
TRACKING THE FIRST PAGANS

 

[Falvlun]

Is there really only one true religion?

We would have to know the answers to three questions before we'd be able to answer this with any real meaning:
1) Does God exist?
2) Does God want to be worshipped?
3) Is there only one way in which God wants to be worshipped?

or conversely, for the non-theistic based religions:

1) Does enlightenment/Nirvana exist?
2) Are there ways to reach enlightenment?
3) Is there only one correct way to reach enlightenment?

Only if the answer is "Yes" to all three questions would there be only one true religion. Since we really don't know what the answers are to any of those questions, then all the answers in this thread are basically personal convictions or feelings on the subject.