Is there Really only one True Religion?

[McBell]

Jas 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before our God and Father is this, to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

A bit outdated perhaps because these days widows are apt to be wealthy and able to take care of themselves. However the general concept of helping those in need is still valid.

Refraining from sin is pretty much a basis for all religions but only Christianity provides a way to do it.

I thought that the "Post A Random Bible Verse" thread was in the other sub-forum...?

 

[Cosmos]

Greetings!



I hope you don't intend this to mean Baha'is are free to believe anything they choose!

I assure you we have definite beliefs laid down in our 200 volumes of Baha'i scripture such that it's clearly not an "anything goes" religion!

Peace,

Bruce

Indeed.

 

[billalise]

True religion and undefiled before God is the care of widows and orphans and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

 

[Etritonakin]

Jas 1:27 Pure religion and undefiled before our God and Father is this, to visit the fatherless and widows in their affliction, and to keep oneself unspotted from the world.

A bit outdated perhaps because these days widows are apt to be wealthy and able to take care of themselves..

Maybe in your neighborhood -and these days a rich widow is a more likely target -

Isa 10:1 Woe unto them that decree unrighteous decrees, and that write grievousness which they have prescribed; Isa 10:2 To turn aside the needy from judgment, and to take away the right from the poor of my people, that widows may be their prey, and that they may rob the fatherless!

and... take any of even the latter of the ten commandments -apply it universally -and we'd have an infinitely better world -all of the latter -infinitely more so -but it is the first few commandments which could make such actually infinite.

:slap:

 

[9-10ths_Penguin]

But, remember that when dealing with religion one is dealing with the 'supernatural' which may or may not be limited by logic.

So, if one does not confine the 'supernatural' to a binary logical construction (if true then not false) one could make the argument that all religions have a "likelihood of truth" set to 1 without any conflict.

Ha! Sure - you can pretend that all sorts of things are possible when you throw away logic.

The same "reasoning" still allows for all arguments to have a likelihood of truth of zero without conflict either. The only problem is that by throwing out logic, you also deprive yourself of any possible rationale to justify any higher likelihood. Effectively, you turn the whole question into a big undefined void and pretend like that does something for you. It doesn't.

 

[Ravishing Witch]

Why would there be only one true religion? What I believe, isn't necessarily what you believe because we are different people. So to think that one religion would meet the expectations of everyone is ridiculous. You could come up with all the evidence in the world why one religion is more believable than the next, but people will believe what they want.

 

[Etritonakin]

This sort of binary logic is spoken of as the basis of being more God-like in the bible.
Rather than 1 or 0, however, true and false are used -or "Yes" and "No".

Christ essentially said to make it so that your answer can be yes or no -and that anything else is of the evil one. Some believe he instructed people to always answer yes or no when asked yes or no questions -but not so -which is why he himself did not answer "Yes" when asked "Are you the king of the Jews" -because the question was of the evil one -and asked to condemn him to death. So he did not answer, but made a statement.

Mat 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

Mat 27:11 And Jesus stood before the governor: and the governor asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And Jesus said unto him, "Thou sayest".

By using yes and no we can indeed prove much that we cannot see -just as you have never seen an electron -but know it exists due to its effects, etc...

..so it is said that the things of God are apparent in what was created. What is right and wrong are more apparent than his actual existence. It took much serious research to not merely see the effects of the electron, but to manipulate them. Likewise, to prove God exists, one must seriously attempt to do so -even though the effects of his existence are everywhere.

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

...but one must truly want to prove that God exists (or even does not exist) to begin to do so.

1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

It's all rather scientific, but if you're convinced something does not exist -without proof that it does not exist -you aren't likely to prove it.

 

[Etritonakin]

Why would there be only one true religion? What I believe, isn't necessarily what you believe because we are different people. So to think that one religion would meet the expectations of everyone is ridiculous. You could come up with all the evidence in the world why one religion is more believable than the next, but people will believe what they want.

True religion would not meet the expectations of everyone -it would meet the needs of everyone -and make everyone happy. People are new to the universe -we are born knowing little or nothing. True religion is a heads-up from an intellect with perfect perspective.
It is true that many would reject the true religion due to this newness -not realizing the nature of their environment or even themselves -and not realizing where their present choices will lead. Only when everyone sees the need to adhere to the true religion -which is how to be themselves perfectly -without conflicting with others -can they begin to do so.

The one true religion allows for and ensures the infinite creativity of all without destruction and conflict. It is a law based on the creation which already exists and the creator thereof -which allows all creators to continue to exist together happily.

 

[McBell]

This sort of binary logic is spoken of as the basis of being more God-like in the bible.
Rather than 1 or 0, however, true and false are used -or "Yes" and "No".

Christ essentially said to make it so that your answer can be yes or no -and that anything else is of the evil one. Some believe he instructed people to always answer yes or no when asked yes or no questions -but not so -which is why he himself did not answer "Yes" when asked "Are you the king of the Jews" -because the question was of the evil one -and asked to condemn him to death. So he did not answer, but made a statement.

Mat 5:37 But let your communication be, Yea, yea; Nay, nay: for whatsoever is more than these cometh of evil.

Mat 27:11 And Jesus stood before the governor: and the governor asked him, saying, Art thou the King of the Jews? And Jesus said unto him, "Thou sayest".

By using yes and no we can indeed prove much that we cannot see -just as you have never seen an electron -but know it exists due to its effects, etc...

..so it is said that the things of God are apparent in what was created. What is right and wrong are more apparent than his actual existence. It took much serious research to not merely see the effects of the electron, but to manipulate them. Likewise, to prove God exists, one must seriously attempt to do so -even though the effects of his existence are everywhere.

Rom 1:18 For the wrath of God is revealed from heaven against all ungodliness and unrighteousness of men, who hold the truth in unrighteousness;
Rom 1:19 Because that which may be known of God is manifest in them; for God hath shewed it unto them.
Rom 1:20 For the invisible things of him from the creation of the world are clearly seen, being understood by the things that are made, even his eternal power and Godhead; so that they are without excuse:

...but one must truly want to prove that God exists (or even does not exist) to begin to do so.

1Th 5:21 Prove all things; hold fast that which is good.

It's all rather scientific, but if you're convinced something does not exist -without proof that it does not exist -you aren't likely to prove it.

Yes, but the problem here is that the Bible is merely an infomercial for Christianity.
Just like the Koran is an infomercial for Islam.

 

[Etritonakin]

I just rent DVDs for a buck a night -so it doesn't make a difference to me.

 

[McBell]

I just rent DVDs for a buck a night -so it doesn't make a difference to me.

Am I to assume that you did not understand my last post?

 

[Etritonakin]

No. It's just that you don't understand my odd humor.

 

[McBell]

No. It's just that you don't understand my odd humor.

Fair enough

 

[Etritonakin]

Hmmmmm...... somebody kick-start this thread.... I got nothin' here....

 

[SBrent]

Surely no ‘religion’, which is subject to interpretation anyway, can dare claim a monopoly on the truth, although there may be truths in all of them

 

[Etritonakin]

Rom 3:4 God forbid: yea, let God be true, but every man a liar;

2Pe 1:20 Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation.

 

[MurphtheSurf]

There can be only one truth, so there can only be one true faith. The "all roads lead to God" thing is a PC dodge.

 

[Etritonakin]

Technically you are correct -all roads WOULD not lead to God -but God will make certain they do -just as he is leading the nations to that great and terrible day -regardless of where they would go. So -it's technically correct, also -it depends what you mean.

 

[zenzero]

Friend Etritonakin,

Technically you are correct -all roads WOULD not lead to God -but God will make certain they do -just as he is leading the nations to that great and terrible day -regardless of where they would go. So -it's technically correct, also -it depends what you mean.

And this *god* is a ................................................... "CONCEPT" just for an understanding and that is.............................................[fill up the blanks.]

Love & rgds

 

[painted wolf]

There can be only one truth, so there can only be one true faith. The "all roads lead to God" thing is a PC dodge.

really.... what only one truths are there?
There is no one true language, culture or political system... why should there be one true religion?
Religions are human (political/cultural) institutions after all.

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