Islam is a false religion per Quran itself.

[stanberger]

What are you on about?
All the points I raise are from the Quran and sunnah. Of course, you wouldn't know this because you clearly haven't read them. Also, you haven't addressed any of them.

They are both cruel, jealous, vindictive and intolerant monsters.
Any human who behaved like the god of the Quran would be locked away in a psychiatric institution.

What are you on about?
All the points I raise are from the Quran and sunnah. Of course, you wouldn't know this because you clearly haven't read them. Also, you haven't addressed any of them.

They are both cruel, jealous, vindictive and intolerant monsters.
Any human who behaved like the god of the Quran would be locked away in a psychiatric institution.

 

[stanberger]

naw son that dog won't hunt. they are not equal ....yahweh in bible murders innocent infants in cribs of Egypt [passover]. god In quran does not claim this passover infanticide. only 9 plagues then again you guys may lie to non christians. and non jews

 

[stanberger]

nope one murders babies in cribs of Egypt [passover] [bible god]. the other does not

 

[KWED]

Perhaps your inability to understand how this forum works is a metaphor for your grasp on things Islamic?
Just an idea...

 

[KWED]

naw son that dog won't hunt. they are not equal ....yahweh in bible murders innocent infants in cribs of Egypt [passover]. god In quran does not claim this passover infanticide. only 9 plagues then again you guys may lie to non christians. and non jews

If you want to be taken seriously on a debate forum, you really need to at least try and address the points and questions raised by other people. Simply repeating the same garbled nonsense achieves nothing. Perhaps less.

I didn't claim that they are equal.

I said "They are both cruel, jealous, vindictive and intolerant monsters" but yes, sometimes one outdoes the other in their psychotic behaviour. A bit like how Hitler and Stalin were both similar, but not necessarily equal.

Perhaps if English isn't your first language it might explain some of the comprehension and expression problems you are having. If so, forgive my impatience.

 

[stanberger]

Perhaps your inability to understand how this forum works is a metaphor for your grasp on things Islamic?
Just an idea...

 

[stanberger]

English please

 

[KWED]

English please

I'm happy to try and converse in your native language if it makes things easier. I can get by in a few.

 

[KWED]

English please

 

[KWED]

English please

I think I may have figured out what you are doing wrong.
When you click 'Reply' on a post, a new panel opens at the bottom of the page. No not click the 'Post Reply' button on that panel until you have typed you reply in that panel.

 

[stanberger]

If you want to be taken seriously on a debate forum, you really need to at least try and address the points and questions raised by other people. Simply repeating the same garbled nonsense achieves nothing. Perhaps less.

I said "They are both cruel, jealous, vindictive and intolerant monsters" but yes, sometimes one outdoes the other in their psychotic behaviour. A bit like how Hitler and Stalin were both similar, but not necessarily equal.

Perhaps if English isn't your first language it might explain some of the comprehension and expression problems you are having. If so, forgive my impatience.

 

[stanberger]

nah mate I explained to you that both are not equal and gave examples of the barbaric yahweh of the Bible killing innocent infants while god in quran says avoid harming children elderly and women

 

[KWED]

nah mate I explained to you that both are not equal and gave examples of the barbaric yahweh of the Bible killing innocent infants while god in quran says avoid harming children elderly and women

You still haven't figured out how this "debate" thing works, have you?

1. Address the points raised by the other person. Simply repeating your original point that has since been addressed is not sufficient.
2. Address the actual points raised, not some irrelevant point that you have dreamed up, even if it may seem easier (this is called the "straw man" fallacy).
3. Avoid "red herrings" and "non sequiturs". These are statements that have nothing to do with the issue being discussed.

So to repeat my point that you failed to address - The god of the Bible and the god of the Quran are both cruel, jealous, vindictive and intolerant. Sometimes one outdoes the other in their psychotic behaviour. A bit like how Hitler and Stalin were both similar, but not necessarily equal.
You now need to respond to this point, which has addressed your point that "they are not equal".

Hope this helped.

 

[stanberger]

You still haven't figured out how this "debate" thing works, have you?

1. Address the points raised by the other person. Simply repeating your original point that has since been addressed is not sufficient.
2. Address the actual points raised, not some irrelevant point that you have dreamed up, even if it may seem easier (this is called the "straw man" fallacy).
3. Avoid "red herrings" and "non sequiturs". These are statements that have nothing to do with the issue being discussed.

So to repeat my point that you failed to address - The god of the Bible and the god of the Quran are both cruel, jealous, vindictive and intolerant. Sometimes one outdoes the other in their psychotic behaviour. A bit like how Hitler and Stalin were both similar, but not necessarily equal.
You now need to respond to this point, which has addressed your point that "they are not equal".

Hope this helped.

 

[stanberger]

again you ignored my examples as to why god of bible is not the same as the god of the quran. yahweh in bible murders innocent infants in cribs [passover]. orders babies heads 'be bashed against the rocks'. quran has none of this says to avoid harming women children. elderly. another example bible god floods entire earth in noah flood [3 million inhabitants at that time]. due to nephilim [fallen rapist angels]. while quran says noah floods regional affecting only the people of noah about 117 people at that time no nephilim mentioned. you cannot be that dense to say these two entities are equal

 

[KWED]

again you ignored my examples as to why god of bible is not the same as the god of the quran.

Once again - I did not claim they were the same, so your argument is meaningless.

quran says to avoid harming women children.

No it doesn't.
You have repeatedly been asked to provide the verse where the Quran says this. You repeated refusal suggests you know it doesn't.

while quran says noah floods regional affecting only the people of noah about 117 people at that time

Yet again, you are making stuff up. The Quran does not say any of that. The Quran clearly implies a global flood, which I have explained in detail and you have been unable to respond to.

you cannot be that dense to say these two entities are equal

I have never said that they are equal.
Stop making things up. It just makes you look desperate and foolish. It also reflects badly on your faith that you feel you have to lie in order to defend it.

 

[stanberger]

you claimed both to be cruel jealous and hateful. that cannot be further from the truth. no nephilim [fallen rapist angels] in quran noah story it seems biblical scribes had creative sexual imaginations ......no passover in quran exodus story. where yahweh murders innocent infants in cribs of Egypt ....nowhere in quran does god say 'go bash heads of the babies' ss yahweh orders in bible ....folks do your own due diligence ...happy first day of ramadan !!! fasting these 30 days removes your sins for the past year. no blood of innocent man on a cross necessary

 

[KWED]

you claimed both to be cruel jealous and hateful. that cannot be further from the truth.

I appreciate that as you haven't read the Quran you are unaware of Allah's behaviour and approach, but he is definitely all three.
Cruel - read the descriptions of the methods of torture he employs on disbelievers.
Jealous - he tortures people who refuse to join his gang.
Hateful - he hates people who refuse to join his gang. He even advises ordinary Muslims to do the same.

happy first day of ramadan !!! fasting these 30 days removes your sins for the past year. no blood of innocent man on a cross necessary

So you can be a serial child murdering, rapist torturer, but if you don't eat or drink anything during daylight hours for a month, god forgives you? Where is the justice in that?

PS. Don't forget to use that 'Reply' button.

 

[KWED]

you claimed both to be cruel jealous and hateful. that cannot be further from the truth. no nephilim [fallen rapist angels] in quran noah story it seems biblical scribes had creative sexual imaginations ......no passover in quran exodus story. where yahweh murders innocent infants in cribs of Egypt ....nowhere in quran does god say 'go bash heads of the babies' ss yahweh orders in bible ....folks do your own due diligence ...happy first day of ramadan !!! fasting these 30 days removes your sins for the past year. no blood of innocent man on a cross necessary

 

[stanberger]

I appreciate that as you haven't read the Quran you are unaware of Allah's behaviour and approach, but he is definitely all three.
Cruel - read the descriptions of the methods of torture he employs on disbelievers.
Jealous - he tortures people who refuse to join his gang.
Hateful - he hates people who refuse to join his gang. He even advises ordinary Muslims to do the same.

So you can be a serial child murdering, rapist torturer, but if you don't eat or drink anything during daylight hours for a month, god forgives you? Where is the justice in that?

PS. Don't forget to use that 'Reply' button.