Islam will dominate!

[Tiapan]

Yep we had the head Islamic honcho here in Oz, spouting the same disgusting poisonous vitriol. Justifying the massively disproportionally large occurrence of sickening pack rapes committed by Muslim youths compared to the general secular population. They are products of their culture a direct consequence of the artificially sexually repressive Islamic culture and points clearly to the dangers of ignorance espoused by Muslim clerics. This is not unique to Australia but this disgusting phenomena is also documented in many European countries. eg Sweden.

Cheers

 

[YmirGF]

Yep we had the head Islamic honcho here in Oz, spouting the same disgusting poisonous vitriol. Justifying the massively disproportionally large occurrence of sickening pack rapes committed by Muslim youths compared to the general secular population. They are products of their culture a direct consequence of the artificially sexually repressive Islamic culture and points clearly to the dangers of ignorance espoused by Muslim clerics. This is not unique to Australia but this disgusting phenomena is also documented in many European countries. eg Sweden.

Cheers

Agreed. The thing that 301 is conveniently ignoring is that rape is not about sex. It is about control and power. In my view, we have yet another example of a person who simply does not understand sexuality and human behavior all that well and pretends that the problem does not exist in Islamic societies. Muslim society is just more adept at covering up the problem and often inflicts harm on the person being raped due to their admission of sex outside of marriage.

 

[Kerr]

Ofcourse mini-skirts dont rape. But do not help. Uncovered meat will cause the beasts to gather to devour.

There was a BBC report that I was liestning to on the world service which its study found out that the majority of rape in civilised peacefull secular states was casued after the rapiests were indulged in prolonged periods of viewing hard core adult films.

It is just all of it comes together from alchahol, WMD sex, No divine conciouse, to too much revealing secular dress code, when all or any of these combinations come toghether and we have a dwarfing darkness and total backward civilised social conduct.

We men are not zombies, you know. No amount of mini-skirts could make me rape anyone.

 

[gnostic]

We men are not zombies, you know. No amount of mini-skirts could make me rape anyone.

Me too. I wouldn't rape woman even if she was in a bikini or lingerie.

Rape is not about sex, it is power to control and inflict fear upon the victim.

It is traumatic experience for any woman, and for anyone to make stupid excuse about how women dress, invite rapes, whether they are religious or not, are despicable as the rapists.

 

[Breathe]

I find it highly offensive that women who wear revealing clothes have been referred to as 'uncovered meat'. Women aren't meat and to compare them to uncovered meat being being devoured if they are raped is truly despicable and misogynistic.

Otherwise, I agree with Ymir, Kerr and gnostic on this: spot on guys.

 

[*Anne*]

Thank you, guys, for pointing out how wrong this blame-the-victim mentality is.

If I walked into a bar in little more than my underwear, a gentleman ~ a good, decent, kind man ~ would give me his coat. He would not rape me. The world is full of these men.

A rapist would rape me regardless of what I was wearing. It all comes down to opportunity and his sick, twisted mind.

You know what I think would help cut down on the number of rapes per year in any society? Executing the rapists.

 

[Peacewise]

You know what I think would help cut down on the number of rapes per year in any society? Executing the rapists.

I'd vote for that.

 

[Walkntune]

I agree you can't blame the victim for the crime even though I believe you can take safety measures.
It is the same as blaming a person for getting mugged who goes to their car alone at night.

I also believe if you are going to dress and reveal yourself as a tease then expect the disrespectful comments when you walk by those who are disrespectful.. After all what is it your after by revealing yourself?
Nothing wrong with dressing and feeling sexy but I would use common sense in where it is appropriate.
Your choice may not be the fault of the crime but it can be the prevention. Afterall, once the crime is committed, there is nothing your rights or the law can do to reverse it.

 

[*Anne*]

Your choice may not be the fault of the crime but it can be the prevention.

I strongly disagree. All kinds of women are raped, all ages, in various situations. Clothing has nothing to do with it. No outfit (or lack of one) is going to turn a normal man into a rapist.

 

[Kerr]

Thank you, guys, for pointing out how wrong this blame-the-victim mentality is.

If I walked into a bar in little more than my underwear, a gentleman ~ a good, decent, kind man ~ would give me his coat. He would not rape me. The world is full of these men.

A rapist would rape me regardless of what I was wearing. It all comes down to opportunity and his sick, twisted mind.

The ones who think men would rape because of how someone dress have very low thoughts of humanity, since appearently we cannot control our own urges. It reminds me of how it used to be in my own country, when the victim was asked questions about how she was dressing in court. For example if she had a black thong it was considered that she was "willing". Those laws have changed to make sure that does not occur, however there are still some pig-headed judges who have a view on woman that are many centuries old.

You know what I think would help cut down on the number of rapes per year in any society? Executing the rapists.

I am not sure I would suggest the death penalty personally (don´t get me wrong, I hate rapists, but I don´t believe in executing people), but it is nothing that should be considered a small crime.

 

[Kerr]

I strongly disagree. All kinds of women are raped, all ages, in various situations. Clothing has nothing to do with it. No outfit (or lack of one) is going to turn a normal man into a rapist.

It could be considered prevention. But so could a lot of other things. In the end I don´t think it is realistic to expect women to dress or act this or that way just because someone somewhere may decide to rape them. It would just lead to a lot of people living in fear.

 

[301ouncer]

d

Ok let me ask your opinion of this please:

does secular system woman dress code bring the wrong type of attention and the wrong type of men?

Isn't this dress code oppressive to these woman? As they have to compet with other (woman jelousy) to have who be the most revealing to hook up with some man that she hopes to care for her and look after her?

Isn't this dress code make the husband of other decent woman go astray and end up in extra-marital affaris that ruin the whole family including the childeren?

These fatherless childeren have no fatherly guidance and end up doing these dwarfing secular crimes?

And do remember all started from this secular system woman dress code which caused woman and number of families ruined?

And then you have teenage daughters from this same ruined family after no fault of their own fall into this same secular beacon of hope and its trap and get impragnated by under age boys and end up teenage mothers with no fatherly support?

Thereafter when all the dust is settled the state will have to pick up the tap for the social support of these ruined family and their childeren.

A family that is ruined by this dress code is OPPRESSION to me.

A state that forced to pick up the tap by this same dress code they themselves permitted is total HYPOCRACY to me.

I awaite your openion miss Alice.

What I asked above has nothing to do with rape but all to do what sort of men does this mini/micro skirts bring and their intentions?

You here really just to incite hatred on muslims without any justifications. All I am doing here is exposing a system that is clearly making people lifes a misery for both christians and muslims.

This blind hatered is beyond all imaginations.

 

[xkatz]

You here really just to incite hatred on muslims without any justifications. All I am doing here is exposing a system that is clearly making people lifes a misery for both christians and muslims.

This blind hatered is beyond all imaginations.

What about other religious groups? Do they simply not matter in your opinion or is there something else to it...?

 

[301ouncer]

Then if you are not ignorant, then show me a secular law that say a woman should wear what out in public. Show me a law that women have to wear mini-skirt or go out in public their underwear. There's no such law or secular system, then I will eat my words.

Do you live in a country with secular government and law? Do they have a law or government policy that say a woman has to wear mini-skirt?

If you are not a woman then it is really none of your damn business what a woman wear. If a woman chooses to wear a headscarf for fashion reason or, cultural or religious reason, or not to wear it all, then it is none of your business nor mine. Oppression come from government or religion tried to enforce with oppressive law on what a woman should or should not wear, and I only see such oppression on women from Muslim-populated countries.

And what have you done? You make bl#@dy excuses for rapists that the victims are to blame.



It is typical Muslim excuses to blame women for rape, instead of the rapists. Only a sick person would call a woman "meat".

Are you saying that rapes never occurred with Muslim women covered up? Or are you saying that no Muslim men ever rape women?

Dont blame it all on muslims as my good christians and jewish friends are just as fed up of this imoral dress code.

It is so oppressive that men do not even look at how intellegent or intellectual/Would make a good mother, etc but more so how slim those legs look in a micro skirt or how fake tanned they are. Do not let me go higher above and the high increase of plastic breast implants and bottom implants.

It is getting sicker and darker by the hour.

 

[301ouncer]

What about other religious groups? Do they simply not matter in your opinion or is there something else to it...?

Because the christins are closer to my hart than any other religious group. Also they have a holy scripture. They are closer to muslims too as my majistic creator tell me.

Also half of my family is secular/athists from western christian backgrounds.

 

[YmirGF]

Dont blame it all on muslims as my good christians and jewish friends are just as fed up of this imoral dress code.

It is so oppressive that men do not even look at how intellegent or intellectual/Would make a good mother, etc but more so how slim those legs look in a micro skirt or how fake tanned they are. Do not let me go higher above and the high increase of plastic breast implants and bottom implants.

So all women should be forced to run around in garment bags simply so your "sensitivities" are not upset?

 

[Kerr]

What I asked above has nothing to do with rape but all to do what sort of men does this mini/micro skirts bring and their intentions?

You here really just to incite hatred on muslims without any justifications. All I am doing here is exposing a system that is clearly making people lifes a misery for both christians and muslims.

This blind hatered is beyond all imaginations.

Who said anything about hate?

 

[Kerr]

Dont blame it all on muslims as my good christians and jewish friends are just as fed up of this imoral dress code.

It is not a dress code. It is a lack of dress code. And it is more moral then to have one which applies everywhere... assuming we can speak of morality when it comes to cloths.

It is so oppressive that men do not even look at how intellegent or intellectual/Would make a good mother, etc but more so how slim those legs look in a micro skirt or how fake tanned they are. Do not let me go higher above and the high increase of plastic breast implants and bottom implants.

It is getting sicker and darker by the hour.

So... are you saying we men are blind and stupid?

 

[xkatz]

Because the christins are closer to my hart than any other religious group. Also they have a holy scripture. They are closer to muslims too as my majistic creator tell me.

Also half of my family is secular/athists from western christian backgrounds.

Do you think they are evil? Do they pillage, burn and loot often like your typical, evil secularists? Do they like to oppress religious people? Have they grown fangs yet?

:bat::bat::bat:

Just wait... They soon will grow their wings and will begin breathing fire. I suggest you flee from them while you can, they may turn on you one day and turn into demons and use their atheistic powers to suck all your blood out. :sad4: I don't want you to be a dry-up husked of nothingness even if we disagree

Just be careful, they will use their evil powers one day...

 

[Eliot Wild]

I think this dude is just yankin' our chain. Forgive my cynicism, but I just don't think anybody is this stupid and backward.

Honestly, is it even possible that someone is so far gone that they believe we must force a dress code on women for their own protection? To me, it would actually be more reasonable for someone to be brainwashed into believing that God/Allah demands a dress code.

But stripping away basic rights and freedoms in order to supposedly save women from being victims . . . that is too illogical to be believable.

And if someone is that far gone to believe just one-tenth of what has been posted in this thread, then you guys can forget it, even the most rock-solid logic and well-formed arguments are not going to work. You are merely wasting your time, unless you are engaging this wacko simply for the exercise in dealing with lunatics.