Islamic Justice: girl lashed for being raped; rapist pardoned

[Thought Criminal]

Let's not forget this classic: Somalian rape victim, 13, stoned to death | World news | The Guardian

And these people dare to demand respect for their religion?

I don't think it's fair to say that all muslims are insanely conservative, to the point of murdering rape victims. However, it is fair to say that their religion breeds misogyny, homophobia and other forms of intolerance.

TC

 

[kai]

It may not be because of that.

It could just be that they don't want to get drawn into a pointless argument.

You know i don't think its a pointless argument. If its not Islamic then let the poster know, If its some kind of Bangladeshi corruption of Quranic principle or Hadith then just say so.

Theres really nothing to argue about just clarify the Punishment , Is it Islamic or Cultural? In fact if i was a Muslim i would welcome the opportunity and take great pains to clarify my position on such things.

Of course if Muslims choose to ignore threads like this then non Muslims tend to make up their own minds on such subjects.

 

[Thought Criminal]

You know i don't think its a pointless argument. If its not Islamic then let the poster know, If its some kind of Bangladeshi corruption of Quranic principle or Hadith then just say so.

Theres really nothing to argue about just clarify the Punishment , Is it Islamic or Cultural? In fact if i was a Muslim i would welcome the opportunity and take great pains to clarify my position on such things.

Of course if Muslims choose to ignore threads like this then non Muslims tend to make up their own minds on such subjects.

If it is contrary to Islam, I would think that they would want to disavow it and acknowledge that it is wrong.

TC

 

[kai]

If it is contrary to Islam, I would think that they would want to disavow it and acknowledge that it is wrong.

TC

I suspect that it probably is wrong, and that its some kind of Patriarchal tribal thing. But these Bangladeshis are issuing Fatwas and what are non muslims supposed to think.


http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal...iple-hurt-for-bangladeshi-girl_100309053.html

 

[Thought Criminal]

I suspect that it probably is wrong, and that its some kind of Patriarchal tribal thing. But these Bangladeshis are issuing Fatwas and what are non muslims supposed to think.


http://www.thaindian.com/newsportal...iple-hurt-for-bangladeshi-girl_100309053.html

Like I said, if it goes against Islam, that's all the more reason they should be in here disavowing it.

TC

 

[kai]

Like I said, if it goes against Islam, that's all the more reason they should be in here disavowing it.

TC

Well some Muslims are fed up with doing just that time and time again, and others seem to take any such posts as insults to Islam. and others may feel it demeaning to enter into such discussions.I guess its up to them.

 

[Thought Criminal]

Well some Muslims are fed up with doing just that, and others seem to take any such posts as insults to Islam. I guess its up to them.

Silence is compliance. If they refuse to disassociate themselves from these people, they should expect us to reasonably conclude that they approve.

TC

 

[Riverwolf]

Well some Muslims are fed up with doing just that time and time again, and others seem to take any such posts as insults to Islam. and others may feel it demeaning to enter into such discussions.I guess its up to them.

I don't really blame them, seeing as how whenever they try, it seems that more often than not, they're completely ignored.

 

[Kerr]

I don't really blame them, seeing as how whenever they try, it seems that more often than not, they're completely ignored.

On this we agree.

 

[Thought Criminal]

I don't really blame them, seeing as how whenever they try, it seems that more often than not, they're completely ignored.

I do blame them. If they try and fail, that sucks. But if they refuse to try, it's all on them.

TC

 

[Kerr]

I do blame them. If they try and fail, that sucks. But if they refuse to try, it's all on them.

TC

The path this thread has taken is quite clear, and it is understandable if they find it a waste of time to respond.

 

[Thought Criminal]

The path this thread has taken is quite clear, and it is understandable if they find it a waste of time to respond.

Never denied it was understandable. But understanding does not remove blame.

TC

 

[Riverwolf]

I do blame them. If they try and fail, that sucks. But if they refuse to try, it's all on them.

TC

You haven't been here for very long. Believe me: we've had lots and lots of threads just like this in the past, some of them downright flamebaits and blatant accusations. Muslims have constantly come in to defend themselves and their religion.

They're ignored pretty much every time.

That's why they're ignoring this thread: it's redundant.

 

[Kerr]

Never denied it was understandable. But understanding does not remove blame.

TC

They, as a group, are not guilty of any crime. It is just a waste to blame them. This silence does, considering the situation of this thread, not change that.

 

[Thought Criminal]

They, as a group, are not guilty of any crime. It is just a waste to blame them. This silence does, considering the situation of this thread, not change that.

They, as a group, are not guilty of these actions. They, as a group, are guilty of not disassociating themselves from these actions, though. Silence is tantamount to endorsement.

TC

 

[Riverwolf]

They, as a group, are not guilty of these actions. They, as a group, are guilty of not disassociating themselves from these actions, though. Silence is tantamount to endorsement.

TC

No, it isn't.

Silence just means exactly that: silence. It doesn't mean one thing or the other.

 

[Thought Criminal]

No, it isn't.

Silence just means exactly that: silence. It doesn't mean one thing or the other.

In a context where you would be expected to speak out against those who do evil in your name, silence is not neutral.

TC

 

[Kerr]

They, as a group, are not guilty of these actions. They, as a group, are guilty of not disassociating themselves from these actions, though. Silence is tantamount to endorsement.

TC

Not in this case. I am sure that if this thread would have been formulated in another way that would have been considered less offensive and less of an accusation towards them all there would have been more responses from them. The silence does not mean they are not disassociating themselves. Context matters.

 

[Thought Criminal]

Not in this case. I am sure that if this thread would have been formulated in another way that would have been considered less offensive and less of an accusation towards them all there would have been more responses from them. The silence does not mean they are not disassociating themselves. Context matters.

Put that to the test, then.

TC

 

[Kerr]

Put that to the test, then.

TC

Don´t care enough, sorry.