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Israel Fires on Humanitarian Aid Flotilla

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DeitySlayer

President of Chindia
That Iran is a wannabe superpower is a joke. Iran's hand is forced, it's not their doing to have US army bases in neighboring countries, Iraq on one side and Afghanistan on the other. They would be complete fools not to arm themselves, they can obviously see what happens to countries that can't defend themselves. The US and Israeli propaganda machine claims Iran is a threat to world security, as if it's Iran that is the aggressor here, and people like you are gullible enough to swallow it whole.

Iran is a wannabe though. It does not have the weapons capability to deliver a nuke to America or Israel, and before it does, one of them will blow the nuclear facility away like the Israelis did at Saddam's Osirak. Iran is not the agressor, and it will never reach that level.
 
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angellous_evangellous

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That Iran is a wannabe superpower is a joke. Iran's hand is forced, it's not their doing to have US army bases in neighboring countries, Iraq on one side and Afghanistan on the other. They would be complete fools not to arm themselves, they can obviously see what happens to countries that can't defend themselves. The US and Israeli propaganda machine claims Iran is a threat to world security, as if it's Iran that is the aggressor here, and people like you are gullible enough to swallow it whole.

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dogsgod

Well-Known Member
Iran is a wannabe though. It does not have the weapons capability to deliver a nuke to America or Israel, and before it does, one of them will blow the nuclear facility away like the Israelis did at Saddam's Osirak. Iran is not the agressor, and it will never reach that level.
It's not a wannabe, it's doing what it is forced to do under the circumstances, there's a difference. It's unfortunate that Iran has to take this route, but considering the constant threats coming from Israel and the US, what choice do they have?
 

Tanuki

Taking a hiatus
It's not a wannabe, it's doing what it is forced to do under the circumstances, there's a difference. It's unfortunate that Iran has to take this route, but considering the constant threats coming from Israel and the US, what choice do they have?

I agree with you. However, I think that the nations in the Middle East should support Iran more rather than trying to be on America's good books all the time! They had the opportunity to put an end to all of this nonsense in 1967 and didn't. The world would be a better place if the Middle East had spoken with one voice then.
 

sandandfoam

Veteran Member
An Israeli newspaper which has been cited repeatedly through out this thread for some of its critical pieces about the flotilla issue by the members who criticize Israel in this thread.
so what if its an Israeli newspaper? it is a reliable newspaper, which does not shy away from publishing critical pieces on Israeli policies.

It seems to me like a fantastic newspaper. Critical, probing and how journalism should be.
I'm one of those critical of the (as I see it) moronic behaviour of the Israeli government on this issue. It is worth splitting the hair and mentioning that I would consider that a different thing from criticising Israel.
 

Caladan

Agnostic Pantheist
It seems to me like a fantastic newspaper. Critical, probing and how journalism should be.
I'm one of those critical of the (as I see it) moronic behaviour of the Israeli government on this issue. It is worth splitting the hair and mentioning that I would consider that a different thing from criticising Israel.
I didnt mean that criticizing Israel was negative by default stephen, I was just making a point about dehumanzing respected Israeli media outlet simply because its Israeli, without knowing the first thing about it. ;)
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
"Israels Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon said on Monday that the organizers of the Gaza aid flotilla have connections to international terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Al-Qaida"
:facepalm:
 

Tanuki

Taking a hiatus
"Israels Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon said on Monday that the organizers of the Gaza aid flotilla have connections to international terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Al-Qaida"
:facepalm:

Yawn! That's all the Israelis ever say. It's a state founded through terrorism, yet condemns the Palestinians for supporting groups such as Hamas. What double standards!
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
Yawn! That's all the Israelis ever say. It's a state founded through terrorism, yet condemns the Palestinians for supporting groups such as Hamas. What double standards!
You keep throwing out the "double standards" , but what you are ignoring is that all terrorism, whether state sponsored or by a group launching attacks on civilian targets in Israel, is wrong by any standards. There are guilty parties on both sides of the issue.
 

Tanuki

Taking a hiatus
You keep throwing out the "double standards" , but what you are ignoring is that all terrorism, whether state sponsored or by a group launching attacks on civilian targets in Israel, is wrong by any standards. There are guilty parties on both sides of the issue.

And the Israelis don't target civilians? The Palestinians are fighting for their freedom, whereas the Israelis are doing their damnedest to hold onto the land that they themselves are occupying illegally! Israel is founded on terrorism and has the audacity to pontificate to everyone else.
 

dogsgod

Well-Known Member
"Israels Deputy Foreign Minister Danny Ayalon said on Monday that the organizers of the Gaza aid flotilla have connections to international terrorist organizations such as Hamas and Al-Qaida"
:facepalm:
How pathetic. His words would be laughable if it wasn't such a sad situation.
 

tumbleweed41

Resident Liberal Hippie
And the Israelis don't target civilians?
Did I say that?
The Palestinians are fighting for their freedom, whereas the Israelis are doing their damnedest to hold onto the land that they themselves are occupying illegally! Israel is founded on terrorism and has the audacity to pontificate to everyone else.

Terrorism is terrorism. I really do not give two hoots what the motivation may be.
Did you support the IRA when they were setting off bombs in England? After all, they were fighting for a 'just cause'. Or did you support the inhumane tactics used by the British government on Irish citizens?
Or perhaps you looked at both sides and thought that they were both wrong.
 

Tanuki

Taking a hiatus
What remarkable and well-nurtured stupidity!

Stupidity? Gawd you're arrogant.

The Israelis due to their stupid notion that the land of Palestine is theirs have displaced millions of Palestinians, and the fact is we in west sit back and just let it happen. And more fool the Muslim nations in the ME who are not standing in solidarity with the Palestinians and using military force to reclaim their land for them, all because of the US - The biggest joke in history.
 

dogsgod

Well-Known Member
UN chief Ban Ki-moon




"Had Israelis heeded to my call and to the call of the international community by lifting the blockade of Gaza, this tragic incident would not have happened," the UN secretary general said.





 
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