Italian writer against women choosing the bear: hating men has become fashionable

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

I see.
So if the question had been "would you rather be in a wood all alone with a bear?" "or with Brad Pitt?".
What do you think the answer would be?

If you asked women whether or not they built their own city just to avoid bears, what do you think the answer would be?

 

[Banach-Tarski Paradox]

Gay are capable of harming people, as far as I know. Just like any other group of people.

So if a potential attacker finds me ugly and unattractive, they won't attack me? Everybody knows attackers only attack gorgeous people.
Whew!

Such a man can still cause me harm.

Why do you keep mention the attacker's sexuality and sexual preferences? There are other ways to harm a person than raping them.

Could be.

Better not approach me when I'm alone in the woods. Not a smart idea.

You know what led me to believe that men are potential rapists? Being raped twice. No indoctrination necessary. Though where this feminist indoctrination is taking place, I don't know.

It's ridiculous that women are trying to tell people what their fears are, and people such as yourselves are doing your best to diminish and mock those fears.

Folks seem upset that the sign at the center of the City of Women says, “careful, machismo kills”, instead of “careful, bears kill”.

So they use Black folks and Gays to negate Women’s feelings and experiences.

I call it “Divide and Rule”.

'City of Women': A refuge for Colombia's displaced - BBC News

Women displaced by Colombia's armed conflict created their own community to offer each other support.

www.bbc.com

 

[Revoltingest]

They do nothing of the kind.

I accept that you believe that.

 

[Revoltingest]

Humans can be quite dangerous.

I agree.
It's like we share one brain!
Occasionally.

 

[Magic Man]

Dictionary.com does not agree with you. There are biological males who identify as women; they're called trans women.

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No, there are trans women. They're not "males who identify as women"; they're women.

If women really saw men as more of a threat than bears, they would avoid men more so than they avoid bears. the fact they do not, proves my point.

Where is the support for the idea that they avoid bears more than they avoid men? Just claiming it doesn't make it true.

Then after you've supported that with evidence, explain it in the context of women having to interact with men on a daily basis as part of their life.

Then after you've supported that with evidence, explain how the fact that most women are sexually attracted to men but not to bears affects that.

But they do assume all bears are dangerous;

then why don't they stay away from men the way they stay away from bears?

See above.

To make a point. Racial bigotry against black men is not acceptable the way gender bigotry is acceptable against men. The way I see it, bigotry is bigotry, and I call it out when I see it.

You misunderstood. My question was why only Black men doing that? You said there is one example of one white woman being assaulted by one Black man. So, in your scenario that white woman has never been sexually harassed by white men? Because that's highly unrealistic.

The point is that it's not just Black men.

 

[Magic Man]

I accept that you believe that.

And I accept that you deny the reality of it.

 

[SkepticThinker]

How many bears have you come in contact in your lifetime? How many men have you come in contact in your lifetime?

"In the forest" is what we're talking about. As in, an isolated location.
You've tried to change it to "in public" which is quite different.

What post number did you do this?

#142

I've seen a brown bear in a public park once, and everybody was freaking out, women included. Women do not react with that kind of fear with men they do not know in public places.

This was in response to, "Look at what you just did there. I asked you to listen and pay closer attention to what we're trying to say. Us women get the chance to share our fears via this thought experiment, and what we do get in response?

"You're stupid."
"You're a bigot."
"You're a liar."

I'm not sure how what you've typed here is a response to what I've said. You seem to have just doubled down and changed the location to a public place.


Rapes and similar attacks don't generally occur in public places with a bunch of people watching.

 

[SkepticThinker]

Dictionary.com does not agree with you. There are biological males who identify as women; they're called trans women.

Dictionary.com | Meanings & Definitions of English Words

The world's leading online dictionary: English definitions, synonyms, word origins, example sentences, word games, and more. A trusted authority for 25+ years!

www.dictionary.com

If women really saw men as more of a threat than bears, they would avoid men more so than they avoid bears. the fact they do not, proves my point.

But they do assume all bears are dangerous;

then why don't they stay away from men the way they stay away from bears?

To make a point. Racial bigotry against black men is not acceptable the way gender bigotry is acceptable against men. The way I see it, bigotry is bigotry, and I call it out when I see it.

In isolated locations, we absolutely do.
We walk with our keys between our fingers.
We keep mace in our purses.
We make a phone call to someone while we walk alone so that in case something happens to us, at least one person knows about it.
We check the back seats of our cars before getting in, in case someone is there.
The entire time we're walking alone, we're hypervigilant of anyone else that may be walking or driving nearby.
Just to name a few.

 

[Revoltingest]

And I accept that you deny the reality of it.

Your beliefs are real, but only to you.
They don't concern us.

 

[Estro Felino]

In isolated locations, we absolutely do.
We walk with our keys between our fingers.
We keep mace in our purses.
We make a phone call to someone while we walk alone so that in case something happens to us, at least one person knows about it.
We check the back seats of our cars before getting in, in case someone is there.
The entire time we're walking alone, we're hypervigilant of anyone else that may be walking or driving nearby.
Just to name a few.

I believe American men are not into women who consider them potential rapists.
That's why they are leaving...moving overseas, choosing European women...

 

[SkepticThinker]

I believe American men are not into women who consider them potential rapists.
That's why they are leaving...moving overseas, choosing European women...

Sorry but I don't think you know the first thing about American men.

 

[Estro Felino]

Sorry but I don't think you know the first thing about American men.

I just quoted them. The video.

 

[Kfox]

No, there are trans women. They're not "males who identify as women"; they're women.

Are you not aware that trans women are biological males?

Where is the support for the idea that they avoid bears more than they avoid men? Just claiming it doesn't make it true.

The fact that women choose to live in places where men live also, and choose not to live where bears live.

Then after you've supported that with evidence, explain it in the context of women having to interact with men on a daily basis as part of their life.

No; women do not have to interact with men on a daily basis, they choose to. There is nobody stopping them from going to some far away island, in the desert, or some place where no men live.

Then after you've supported that with evidence, explain how the fact that most women are sexually attracted to men but not to bears affects that.

They still are not forced to live among men. this comes from the ridicules' feminist idea that all men are potential rapist IMO. It is complete foolishness

You misunderstood. My question was why only Black men doing that? You said there is one example of one white woman being assaulted by one Black man. So, in your scenario that white woman has never been sexually harassed by white men? Because that's highly unrealistic.

If she is a racial bigot, a black man and a white man can have the same actions towards her and she calls the black mans actions harassment, and the white mans actions welcomed conversation

The point is that it's not just Black men.

In my scenario it is. Now are you gonna answer my question?

 

[Revoltingest]

In isolated locations, we absolutely do.
We walk with our keys between our fingers.
We keep mace in our purses.
We make a phone call to someone while we walk alone so that in case something happens to us, at least one person knows about it.
We check the back seats of our cars before getting in, in case someone is there.
The entire time we're walking alone, we're hypervigilant of anyone else that may be walking or driving nearby.
Just to name a few.

Gun grabbers call me paranoid for being armed.
But violent assault against men occurs at rates
similar to women.

U.S. violent crime victims, by gender 2022 | Statista

In 2022, there were slightly more female victims of violent crime than male victims, with about 1,749,030 male victims and 1,762,840 female victims.

www.statista.com

Are women therefore also paranoid
for taking self defense measures?

 

[Kfox]

"In the forest" is what we're talking about. As in, an isolated location.
You've tried to change it to "in public" which is quite different.

How is a forest vs say….. an empty public park at night any different?

#142

Post 142 was absurd because looking at the sheer numbers that show more people are attacked by men than bears does not take into account the number of ecounters women have with men vs bears. If 10 women had contact with bears, and 5 of them are killed, is she really safer around bears then men because out of a 1,000,000 encounters with men, more women get hurt, but at a vastly smaller percentage rate than with the bears?

Rapes and similar attacks don't generally occur in public places with a bunch of people watching.

Rapes and similar attacks don’t generally occur in the forest with a bunch of people watching either! What’s your point?

 

[Magic Man]

Are you not aware that trans women are biological males?

Are you not aware that that statement is not true? Some trans women have transitioned, and some haven't. Either way, calling them biological males is improper, outside of a specific context where that detail is necessary (like a doctor).

The fact that women choose to live in places where men live also, and choose not to live where bears live.

That doesn't support the claim that women avoid bears more than they avoid men.

No; women do not have to interact with men on a daily basis, they choose to. There is nobody stopping them from going to some far away island, in the desert, or some place where no men live.

Of course. And you could too. Realistically speaking, women have to interact with men on a daily basis. You already know this. This disingenuous attempt to avoid admitting it is not helpful. So, now, with that explained, go ahead and support your point in that context.

They still are not forced to live among men. this comes from the ridicules' feminist idea that all men are potential rapist IMO. It is complete foolishness

They still are forced to live among men. I do like how you come up with strawmen arguments and then pat yourself on the back for shooting them down. Technically, all men are potential rapists, but that's not what's being said. Whether you find your strawman foolish or not is irrelevant.

So, again, explain how the fact that most women are sexually attracted to men but not to bears affects whether or not they avoid men the same way they avoid bears.

If she is a racial bigot, a black man and a white man can have the same actions towards her and she calls the black mans actions harassment, and the white mans actions welcomed conversation

What does that have to do with anything? OK, then she's racist...and? You were presumably trying to use "raped by a Black man" to make some other point. If all you're trying to do is say some people are racist, then...great?

In my scenario it is. Now are you gonna answer my question?

Then your scenario is silly and irrelevant. If someone has one bad experience with one person, generalizing to all people that person belongs to is wrong.

What we're talking about is women having bad experiences with men on a nearly daily basis. Black men, white men, Asian men, short men, tall men, fat men, skinny men, etc. The common denominator is men, not any particular kind. Your example of one specific type of man one time makes no sense.

 

[Magic Man]

Your beliefs are real, but only to you.
They don't concern us.

Well, that's incorrect for two reasons. We're here to talk about beliefs. And I'm not talking about a belief. I'm pointing out a fact of reality to you. You're refusing to accept it.

 

[Magic Man]

I believe American men are not into women who consider them potential rapists.
That's why they are leaving...moving overseas, choosing European women...

Cool, now all you have to do is support that with any kind of evidence. I'm sure you'll be along shortly to do just that.

 

[Magic Man]

Gun grabbers call me paranoid for being armed.
But violent assault against men occurs at rates
similar to women.

U.S. violent crime victims, by gender 2022 | Statista

In 2022, there were slightly more female victims of violent crime than male victims, with about 1,749,030 male victims and 1,762,840 female victims.

www.statista.com

Are women therefore also paranoid
for taking self defense measures?

I can only assume by "gun grabbers" you mean "people who understand that guns are dangerous". The fact that you call them "gun grabbers" and then push back against the claim that you're paranoid is pretty rich.

Violent crimes against men might happen at overall rates similar to against women, but it happens much differently. A lot of violent crime against men is in other categories like gang violence, fights, etc. Men aren't assaulted the same way women are, which is why men don't feel the need to carry mace or watch their backs every minute when they're alone or not jog in places that aren't well populated, etc.

There are two problems with comparing it to women taking self-defense classes.

1) Learning self-defense is a whole lot different from carrying a gun. If I know karate, that doesn't generally put people around me at risk. A gun puts everyone in danger.

2) Your chances of being in a situation where your gun will be helpful are much less than a woman's chances of being in a situation where knowing self-defense techniques is helpful.

That in an of itself doesn't necessarily mean you're paranoid or not, but the comparison doesn't work.

 

[Revoltingest]

Well....

That much of your post isn't erroneous.