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Italian writer against women choosing the bear: hating men has become fashionable

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
No...it's just the toxic culture that wants to impose the narrative that all men are stalkers and murderers.

I mean...my best friend has always been dumped by men. She confessed me that she really wishes some of her exes had stalked her.
I have a stalker on RF.
Wouldn't bother me to meet him in the woods.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
No...it's just the toxic culture that wants to impose the narrative that all men are stalkers and murderers.

I mean...my best friend has always been dumped by men. She confessed me that she really wishes some of her exes had stalked her.
I've been stalked. It isn't fun. It's scary.
 
My reply was in the context of how things are in the USA. In the US these type of people would never even dream about applying the same type of logic to race, because they would be vilified as a bigot and racist. For you to say a person would be justified in judging all black men based on the actions of one would earn you the label of bigot and racist in America.

What planet do you live on?
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
I am sorry for you...but the fact that you met the wrong guys doesn't mean that all men are dangerous.
Thank you.

I've never said anywhere that all men are dangerous.

Also, I didn't "meet" the guy. It wasn't a date gone wrong or something. He saw me somewhere and started stalking me. Also, there were no stalking laws back then so I couldn't get the police to do much of anything about it.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
Thank you.

I've never said anywhere that all men are dangerous.

Also, I didn't "meet" the guy. It wasn't a date gone wrong or something. He saw me somewhere and started stalking me. Also, there were no stalking laws back then so I couldn't get the police to do much of anything about it.
Okay...but I was stalked by an ex boyfriend too many years ago. It happens.

But being mauled by a bear is more likely to happen, if you run into a bear.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
The Californian bear went extinct because they killed him and because he was a real danger for people and animals.
He didn't go extinct willingly. They exterminated him.

So... being hit on a creep on a wood cannot be considered equivalent than being attacked by a ferocious bear.
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
I guess I'm failing to see why or how race comes into play at all.
As I said before, if a white woman claims to have been raped by a black man, she would be vilified if she judged all black men as rapists. But according to you, if a woman gets raped by a man, it is okay for her to judge all men as rapists.
I would suggest listening to your sisters, wives, friends who are women, instead of telling them how you think they should feel, without ever experiencing what they've experienced.
I do listen to them, and I don't need to tell them how they feel, they tell ME how they feel. Perhaps YOU should listen to them, not all women think like you.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
As I said before, if a white woman claims to have been raped by a black man, she would be vilified if she judged all black men as rapists. But according to you, if a woman gets raped by a man, it is okay for her to judge all men as rapists.
Nobody is doing either of those things.

I think it's really weird to bring race into it. It's not a factor.

I do listen to them, and I don't need to tell them how they feel, they tell ME how they feel. Perhaps YOU should listen to them, not all women think like you.
Women telling you how they feel and you listening and taking it in are two separate things.

I often listen to other women. I spend time with them. I'm in a support group with them. Women have spoken all over social media about this bear/man in the woods thought experiment, and they mostly come down on my side. That's what this thread is about. And that's what all the indignation is about, as far as I can tell. Everyone seems so shocked that we choose the bear, but you don't want to listen to the reasons why.
 

Estro Felino

Believer in free will
Premium Member
I often listen to other women. I spend time with them. I'm in a support group with them. Women have spoken all over social media about this bear/man in the woods thought experiment, and they mostly come down on my side. That's what this thread is about. And that's what all the indignation is about, as far as I can tell. Everyone seems so shocked that we choose the bear, but you don't want to listen to the reasons why.
Honestly I believe that being hit on by a man is something that bothers many women. And that is why men should understand that unwanted advances may affect their "reputation".
It's perfectly understandable.
But men are a bit weird...I mean there are so many women, like my friends who love to be hit on by men...it's because they are very vain and self-centered and that makes them feel pretty.

Why do men prefer to hit on the shy ones? Because they tend to be hunters. They don't like being preyed on by women...they want to be the hunters, so they avoid the "promiscuous" and the "nymphos" even if they look like Miss Universe...
and prefer to chase the chaste modest ones.

They are turned on by rejection...and that makes them weird creatures...
 

Kfox

Well-Known Member
Nobody is doing either of those things.
That's what this entire thread is about! That women believe men are more dangerous than bears!
Women telling you how they feel and you listening and taking it in are two separate things.

I often listen to other women. I spend time with them. I'm in a support group with them. Women have spoken all over social media about this bear/man in the woods thought experiment, and they mostly come down on my side.
Maybe that's the difference; you're getting your information from women who feel a need to be in a support group; I don't. The women I talk to are not broken, they are not victims, they are not weak and fearful. Perhaps if you spoke to women who have no need for a support group, you might get some different answers.
 

SkepticThinker

Veteran Member
That's what this entire thread is about! That women believe men are more dangerous than bears!
Alone. In the woods. With nobody else around.
Maybe that's the difference; you're getting your information from women who feel a need to be in a support group; I don't. The women I talk to are not broken, they are not victims, they are not weak and fearful. Perhaps if you spoke to women who have no need for a support group, you might get some different answers.

People in support groups aren't broken. Good grief.

The women you talk to "aren't broken." LOL

Well, I'm sorry to have to tell you, but the whole reason we're having this discussion in the first place is because women of the internet have already spoken, and they mostly choose the bear. It's not just me and the other "broken women," of course.

But thanks for the mansplanation about broken, weak and fearful women. I've learned so much. :rolleyes:
 
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