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It's true; fake news is a problem.

Lyndon

"Peace is the answer" quote: GOD, 2014
Premium Member
You support the freedom of the 1% to rip off the rest of us, no doubt!!
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
You are wilfully confusing an investigation and the real news reporting on that investigation with a belief that Trump actually colluded. In this country an investigation is required before a decision about a crime having occurred beyond a reasonable doubt. CNN and other media outlets reporting the fact that an investigation was really occurring.

Apologetics will do you no good here.


The fake news CNN and MSNBC was not objectively reporting on what was going on. They was pushing a false narrative of guilt for 3 years before the Mueller report was complete.

All of you who are trying to pretend this didn't happen are just making yourselves look even more foolish.

Trump used the investigation to whip up his fan base saying he is being treated so unfairly..

He was correct though. He would have looked the fool, had prosecutable evidence been found.

Now obstruction is looking like it is well substantiated so calling the whole investigation fake news is really stretching credulity. We were all a witness to Trump's efforts to obstruct justice.

Nah Barr accurately portrayed Muellers conclusion that there was not enough evidence to suggest conspiracy (collusion for the left wingers), or obstruction. Funny thing is, as the story unfolds, the "collusion" you're so obsessed with, appears to be entrapment ordered by Obama....can't indict a sitting president, but maybe we can incarcerate a real traitor to the American people.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Apologetics will do you no good here.


The fake news CNN and MSNBC was not objectively reporting on what was going on. They was pushing a false narrative of guilt for 3 years before the Mueller report was complete.

All of you who are trying to pretend this didn't happen are just making yourselves look even more foolish.



He was correct though. He would have looked the fool, had prosecutable evidence been found.



Nah Barr accurately portrayed Muellers conclusion that there was not enough evidence to suggest conspiracy (collusion for the left wingers), or obstruction. Funny thing is, as the story unfolds, the "collusion" you're so obsessed with, appears to be entrapment ordered by Obama....can't indict a sitting president, but maybe we can incarcerate a real traitor to the American people.
How could Obama order anything, including something that would entrap the president? This does not make any sense.

I remember when Obama first took office, all the conservatives kept ranting about how Bush was no longer president and the liberals should quit bringing him up. I guess that only works one way.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
How could Obama order anything, including something that would entrap the president? This does not make any sense.

Obama was the President in 2014/2015.

He along with other tried to lure Trump into "collusion". You really should read the Mueller report, it's quite enlightening!
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Obama was the President in 2014/2015.

He along with other tried to lure Trump into "collusion". You really should read the Mueller report, it's quite enlightening!
You should really read the Mueller Report as well. I am not even sure why I bothered to respond, knowing the answers I would receive.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
You should really read the Mueller Report as well. I am not even sure why I bothered to respond, knowing the answers I would receive.

Hey you are the one who didn't know Obama was the President during the time when the alleged "collusion" took place. :shrug:Dont't blame me for your ignorance.
 

sealchan

Well-Known Member
Apologetics will do you no good here.


The fake news CNN and MSNBC was not objectively reporting on what was going on. They was pushing a false narrative of guilt for 3 years before the Mueller report was complete.

Any examples where either of these news outlets stated Trump was guilty? Other than the obvious public evidence for obstruction?

Nah Barr accurately portrayed Muellers conclusion that there was not enough evidence to suggest conspiracy (collusion for the left wingers), or obstruction. Funny thing is, as the story unfolds, the "collusion" you're so obsessed with, appears to be entrapment ordered by Obama....can't indict a sitting president, but maybe we can incarcerate a real traitor to the American people.

Clear evidence of obstruction was found. Mueller referred the matter to Congress to pursue probably because you can't charge a sitting president with obstruction.

Hundreds of ex-prosecutors claim Trump would have been indicted if not president
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Hey you are the one who didn't know Obama was the President during the time when the alleged "collusion" took place. :shrug:Dont't blame me for your ignorance.
Exactly what I expected. I never made any claims about when Obama was president, so my knowledge of the duration of his presidency remains unknown to you, but you felt compelled to go there instead of directly to the question I asked. That says a lot about you and the nature of the basis of your claims and arrogant attitude.

I ask again, not expecting a legitimate answer, how did Obama accomplish this or it is just a conspiracy theory from a true believer and has no substance.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
He tried to limit the special council, tried to have him fired and tampered with witnesses, but you know from your many readings of the report.

Barr explained why these don't fall under obstruction during his testimony. I would think the Attorney General of the U.S. understands the law better than anyone else. Soz time to accept defeat.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
If you have read he report and know the answer, why do you continue to evade responding. If you think I have not read it, then by all means give the answer or were you just making all that talk up.

It is a simple question and you claim to have the simple answers. Why try to play it off on me by making a straw man about my knowledge of when Obama held office. Pitiful.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Barr explained why these don't fall under obstruction during his testimony. I would think the Attorney General of the U.S. understands the law better than anyone else. Soz time to accept defeat.
You asked for a list and got it. Everything else is you just repeating the opinion of Barr and that opinion is challenged and not set in stone. The opinion of a group of ex-prosecutors indicates that they consider Trump's actions to warrant charges and that he only escapes by being a seated president. Do you think that a group of attorneys might know the law too?
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
If you have read he report and know the answer, why do you continue to evade responding. If you think I have not read it, then by all means give the answer or were you just making all that talk up.

It is a simple question and you claim to have the simple answers. Why try to play it off on me by making a straw man about my knowledge of when Obama held office. Pitiful.

:tearsofjoy:

I answered already in post # 74. If you wish to willfully ignore it that's on you.
 

Enoch07

It's all a sick freaking joke.
Premium Member
Do you think that a group of attorneys might know the law too?

I think a group of lawyers will say anything you want them to say if you pay them enough.

Barr has the last say on obstruction and conspiracy charges. That say is based on Muellers findings and evidence.

The evidence was not strong enough to support charges.

End of story.
 

Dan From Smithville

The Flying Elvises, Utah Chapter
Staff member
Premium Member
Barr explained why these don't fall under obstruction during his testimony. I would think the Attorney General of the U.S. understands the law better than anyone else. Soz time to accept defeat.
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:tearsofjoy:

I answered already in post # 74. If you wish to willfully ignore it that's on you.
So nothing then but ad hominem responses. At least you are consistent. It has been educational.
 
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