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JD Vance - A Gift To Biden

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
Possible Trump responses to criticism of Vance....
4) He found Jesus, & saw the light.
3) He won top honors from US Toady Assoc for Most Improved.
2) I thought being called "America's Hitler" was a compliment.
1) He was kidding!
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
Which is still different from calling him Hitler.
She didn't "infer" it.
For crying out loud its politics, they lie they cheat they attack and later say it was just politics, shake hands and join in at attacking someone else.....and why the hell I get involved in political stuff when it is ALWAYS favoritism and my guys are better and more honest than you're evil jerk wads....I go news for you,,,,, I've worked around politicians for 30 years......THEY ARE ALL THE SAME!!!!!!

You go with whatever you want...I'm out......
 

Revoltingest

Pragmatic Libertarian
Premium Member
For crying out loud its politics, they lie they cheat they attack and later say it was just politics, shake hands and join in at attacking someone else.....and why the hell I get involved in political stuff when it is ALWAYS favoritism and my guys are better and more honest than you're evil jerk wads....I go news for you,,,,, I've worked around politicians for 30 years......THEY ARE ALL THE SAME!!!!!!

You go with whatever you want...I'm out......
These threads aren't good for you.
 

Tomef

Well-Known Member
Possible Trump responses to criticism of Vance....
4) He found Jesus, & saw the light.
3) He won top honors from US Toady Assoc for Most Improved.
2) I thought being called "America's Hitler" was a compliment.
1) He was kidding!
Or…hey, this guy knows how to lie too! Let’s be best buds.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
For crying out loud its politics, they lie they cheat they attack and later say it was just politics, shake hands and join in at attacking someone else.....and why the hell I get involved in political stuff when it is ALWAYS favoritism and my guys are better and more honest than you're evil jerk wads....I go news for you,,,,, I've worked around politicians for 30 years......THEY ARE ALL THE SAME!!!!!!

You go with whatever you want...I'm out......
They are not all the same. That's the point. Everyone expects a primary challenger to support the eventual winner. That's typical politics, and it makes sense. They try to win, but in the end the party is more important.

Calling someone Hitler when you're not even in politics is a wholly different thing. It's not "all the same".
 

Wu Wei

ursus senum severiorum and ex-Bisy Backson
They are not all the same. That's the point. Everyone expects a primary challenger to support the eventual winner. That's typical politics, and it makes sense. They try to win, but in the end the party is more important.

Calling someone Hitler when you're not even in politics is a wholly different thing. It's not "all the same".
Like I just said.... after 30 years I have a REAL hard time with political naivety..... THE BEAR IS OUT....PEACE!!!!!
 

Kathryn

It was on fire when I laid down on it.
Here is what JD Vance said in a text message to his former roommate, eight years ago when Vance was 31, from MSN:

he goes "back and forth between thinking Trump is a cynical a-- hole like Nixon who wouldn’t be that bad (and might even prove useful) or that he’s America’s Hitler."

My gosh, I've thought the same thing, maybe even worse, and I'm a far cry from 31! I'm also a far cry from the Vice Presidential position. Thank God.
 

Subduction Zone

Veteran Member
Things seem to have been resolved. Sometimes, all it takes is a phone call.

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Hilarious. For those that did not click on the link:

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"And, again sir, I am so sorry that I called you America's Hitler, and so relieved that you took it as a compliment."
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
This has already been gone over multiple times. Here are some of his comments before going into politics:

"I'm a Never Trump guy. I never liked him."
"My God, what an idiot."
"Trump is a cynical ******* like Nixon...or that he's America's Hitler."
"Mr. Trump is unfit for our nation's highest office."
"I can't stomach Trump. I think that he's noxious and is leading the white working class to a very dark place."

Then within a few years, he's downplaying January 6th, supporting Trump's lies about the election and generally sucking up to Trump in any way he can.

That's not simply changing your mind. Nothing actually changed during that span, other than Vance wanting more power.
Ok, this just shows he changed his mind, you have just made up a reason why. He has explained why if you care to listen to him.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
Just to be clear, your argument is that if he didn't admit to it, it's not true? That we can't look at his actions and make obvious determinations? Trump claims he didn't have sex with a porn star too. I guess that didn't happen, huh?
No, that is not my claim. My claim is that you cannot know if it is true or not with the available information.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
That happens in politics. And Biden was able to refute all of those attacks by Harris. I have never seen Trump come close to refuting those sorts of claims about him.
You want Trump to refute he is Hitler? Please these comments are ridiculous and don't need to be responded to. He is not going to gas 6 million people. Jeeze.
 

Magic Man

Reaper of Conversation
Ok, this just shows he changed his mind, you have just made up a reason why. He has explained why if you care to listen to him.
It shows he did it cynically to gain power. I'm sure he's offered other explanations. I'd be surprised if he just came out and said "Yeah, I still think Trump sucks and is America's Hitler, but I want to progress my political career, so I'm sucking up to him now". Of course he won't admit that. I just realize that we can look at his actions and make determinations and not go by his excuses.
 

Clizby Wampuscat

Well-Known Member
And what was his explanation? Was it believable?

Regardless he is going to have to explain it again. Perhaps several times. And he needs to make it convincing if he wants to be taken seriously.
Really? To who, people that won't vote for him anyway? As far as believable that is up to each person to decide.
 
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