Jesus is not god

[JM2C]

If you are really interested in a a discussion let us take a focal point for discussion and start from there. What do you think ?

If there is a need for a new thread let us make one.

I am interested in a constructive discussion. We won't be just trying to prove the other wrong.

What do you think? If you agree propose something

I know you have nothing to say or your shoe box run out of things to say.

 

[Sabour]

I know you have nothing to say or your shoe box run out of things to say.

Is that why I told you choose a focal point for us to discuss?

I am giving you the chance to finish me. If you think my shoe box run out of things go ahead and tell me a topic. Finish me!

 

[JM2C]

Is that why I told you choose a focal point for us to discuss?

I am giving you the chance to finish me. If you think my shoe box run out of things go ahead and tell me a topic. Finish me!

OP asked "Jesus is not God" then at the end OP said "let's discuss another topic"

 

[Sabour]

OP asked "Jesus is not God" then at the end OP said "let's discuss another topic"

I didn't tell you let us discuss another topic. I told you let us choose a focal point even if it meant to open a new thread. This doesn't mean let us discuss another topic.

So Read and Understand.

And if we go to the beginning, between you and me there was one who started writing long posts with no regards to the OP. That would be you.

Anyways, if you are not going to do what I told you to soon, your statement you made will be hunting you

I know you have nothing to say or your shoe box run out of things to say.

 

[Sabour]

You read few verses from bible that contradicts your teachings, or the Koran, and make a dogmatic arrogant assertion from it without even understanding what those verses in the bible meant and when you run out of things to say you accuse us Christians as if we are the one who cannot understand the bible.

God gave us understanding to understand the bible or God revealed Himself to us through His words, and that is, the Bible.

God revealed Himself to the Israelites through Moses in the OT.

Dt 29:29 The secret things belong to the LORD our God, but the things revealed belong to us and to our children forever, that we may follow all the words of this law.

God revealed Himself to the Gentiles through the Lord Jesus through Paul’s teachings in the NT.

Col 1:25 I have become its servant by the commission God gave me to present to you/Gentiles the word of God in its fullness—

Col 1:26 the mystery that has been kept hidden for ages and generations, but is now disclosed to the saints.

Col 1:27 To them God has chosen to make known among the Gentiles the glorious riches of this mystery, which is Christ in you, the hope of glory.

If you are not a Jew then you are a Gentile. IOW, God revealed Himself to the Israelites first in the OT, then to the Gentiles in the NT and not in the koran.

So when you were going to answer what I asked about the verse?

 

[Sabour]

Your religion is the one accusing us Christians of lying. If you read it carefully it says “and they did not kill him, nor did they crucify him”

Quraan doesn't accuse you of lying. It accuses the one who wrote that and made people believe it.

However what convinces you that he was crucified other than it is written in the bible?

 

[Sabour]

Blind faith? It all depends on how one defines it. Is blind faith means faith into something without any evidence objectively or evidence subjectively? Subjectively I do believe in God and that is through faith in the Lord Jesus –John 14:6 “No one comes to the Father except through Christ”, Eph 2:8-9.

Objectively I do believe in God, and that is not by means of images or idols, but by expressing my belief to others, like the one we are doing now.

On the other hand, if what you meant by blind faith is the history of my religion. My religion goes all the way back to Abraham and even further. Jn 8:58 “I tell you the truth,” Jesus answered, “before Abraham was born, I am!”

Tell me yours. I know you have little to say about it, but tell it anyway.

Blind faith is believing in something just because you want to believe.

It is a belief in something without verification and proofs.

 

[JM2C]

Quraan doesn't accuse you of lying. It accuses the one who wrote that and made people believe it.

However what convinces you that he was crucified other than it is written in the bible?

Please don't compare the koran to the bible.

 

[Sabour]

Please don't compare the koran to the bible.

You are on a religiousforums so get used to it.

I suggest you deepen your knowledge about the bible so that you would defend it instead of telling me not to compare

 

[JM2C]

I didn't tell you let us discuss another topic. I told you let us choose a focal point even if it meant to open a new thread. This doesn't mean let us discuss another topic.

So Read and Understand.

And if we go to the beginning, between you and me there was one who started writing long posts with no regards to the OP. That would be you.

Anyways, if you are not going to do what I told you to soon, your statement you made will be hunting you

some might think you are a strawman

 

[Sabour]

some might think you are a strawman

I don't really care what some people would think. I care what I really am.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

to--one answer
Why you evade answering these questions-


from The Koran-.
realy I don't believe in the Koran-for I consider the Qur'an is transferred from multiple sources with a clear fraud incidents and also

But since you believe that the Qur'an is the argument you
words of the Qur'an indicates that Christ was Godas well-
Quran said about Christ we do not believe in
It is that Jesus creates birds-.-
Does the creation of human qualitie so rattributes of God
Wait foryou toanswer
I hope that doesn't evade them-
1. and we breathed there in of our soul-.-
This talk of Koran-
The spirit of Christisthe spirit of God
The result that is God-
This is my interpretation of this verse of Quran
2. speech on Mary-
Word of God-the-speechonMary-
Therefore Christ the word of God
The result is that the Word always traceable.
3. supported by the Holy Spirit.
Who is the Holy Spirit.
Why Quran said this speech-.
i wait your answer

 

[psychoslice]

God is only a concept, so if there is a god, then he or she is only a concept, and idea, a story.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

to --one answer and other muslems

Who does not believe in Islam, Christianity and Judaism have a dialogue with the various
We offer him our books only and is not binding on acceptance
And have doubts about their health
But dialogue with the Muslim be differently
We offer him our books
And also offer him writing believe it Qur
And for this
If you can prove what you believe your opponent'sbook wins the case
We show that Christ from the book of Quran
This fall invited in that Jesus is not God
But if you say to us I'm an atheist
The our argument this fall
Also
And do not give you only wrote
Yes,the Koran says that Jesus create birds-.
Are you in the creation of the humanmother of God
Waiting for you my dear Muslim.
So does not challenge the validity of our faith
You just have to eliminate the contradiction in the Qur'an
And the right to
And put your mind in balance

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

God is only a concept, so if there is a god, then he or she is only a concept, and idea, a story.

YesGod
Is the idea of impos in ganyus-.
We cannot imagine that this universe is alone without the programmer for all movements
Therefore, the first to announce this was Abraham
That came out of (ur of the Chaldeans)
And carried to the world the idea of God
As pure and wonderful in the Bible-the
But the Torah that God will be with us
In the words of Emmanuel
God came between us
In the person of Christ
Therefore, the presence of God
Permanent
The idea advocated by Christianity
I'd say Christianity
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[JM2C]

I don't really care what some people would think. I care what I really am.

If you really care about yourself or your religion then why bother or challenge others about their beliefs? Are you in doubt of your belief and still searching for the truth? The truth is the Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross, was buried, and resurrected on the third day; this is the truth, the Gospel according to the apostles.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

to--one answer
Why evade answering part No. 132 and before-.-
Jesusis the word of God
Christis the spirit of God
Holy Spirit Christ Associates
Jesus creates birds
Do you think that the creation of jobs or the creature
You should review your faith and increase the contrast of the Qur'an
So you canconvince others

 

[Sabour]

If you really care about yourself or your religion then why bother or challenge others about their beliefs? Are you in doubt of your belief and still searching for the truth? The truth is the Lord Jesus Christ died on the cross, was buried, and resurrected on the third day; this is the truth, the Gospel according to the apostles.

Because prophet Muhammad peace be upon him said no one will come a believer until he loves for his brother what he loves for himself ( brothers in humanity).


Also Quraan speaks to Christians and tell them not to say three.

We are here in a religious forums, it is normal to see me challenging others' beliefs. Get used to it.

The truth is far from what you are telling. If it was the truth, it wouldn't have had contradictions in it.

 

[Sabour]

to--one answer
Why evade answering part No. 132 and before-.-
Jesusis the word of God
Christis the spirit of God
Holy Spirit Christ Associates
Jesus creates birds
Do you think that the creation of jobs or the creature
You should review your faith and increase the contrast of the Qur'an
So you canconvince others

You are not someone who I would answer Mahasn.

I would only consider answering you after you forfeit your agenda and actually be worth of discussion. Frankly you are only here to troll muslims and hit on things that have no relation to the topics discussed. You either don't know English which leaves me wondering why you are here attempting to discuss in English rather than going somewhere else, or you are only pretending. In either case I think addressing you would be a waste of time.

 

[mahasn ebn sawresho]

You are not someone who I would answer Mahasn.

I would only consider answering you after you forfeit your agenda and actually be worth of discussion. Frankly you are only here to troll muslims and hit on things that have no relation to the topics discussed. You either don't know English which leaves me wondering why you are here attempting to discuss in English rather than going somewhere else, or you are only pretending. In either case I think addressing you would be a waste of time.

You are evading answering my questions
Here's a free dialogue
I am here to reveal to the people-tdalik.
Provided you questions from your book
1. creation of attributes of God
Islam says Jesus create birds
Whocreates
God creates
Jesus create birds
So the result of Christ was characteristic of the attributes of God
I knowyou enter intomyMuslim
Note I do not believe in the Quran but the oldest argument and proof of the validity of the Christian faith from your book you a Qur'an
2. Quran says Jesus is the word of God
3. Christ is the spirit of God
The Quran says and we breathed there in of our soul
4. supported by the Holy Spirit
Who is the Holy Spirit
And how was the support of Christ in the Holy Spirit
What doI write here the bugis
And free dialogue
I am defending my faith
Do you think I am, I will not have this right
Or do you want to terrorize the thoughta lso
And tell you the Secretary
If you are able todefinethe spiritof the Qur'an
Come and tell me so
And if you are able to remove the contradiction?
The Quranic verse which attack Christ
Are the verses of the Medina
It is basically a dialogue between the delegation of Najran Christian and Mohamed
In three of the Koran
And for your information
The first campaign of ethnic cleansingin history
When the people of Najran Christians expelled Mohammed and said his famous
two religion does not meet on the island