My post was general, & he created a straw man.
I've held forth on the wrongness of separation,
but you & he seek to ignore this area of agreement,
instead feigning disagreement to criticize.
Try interesting conversation instead, OK?
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Just to stir the pudding...
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I've held forth on the wrongness of separation,
but you & he seek to ignore this area of agreement,
instead feigning disagreement to criticize.
Try interesting conversation instead, OK?
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Very simple solution: don't try to enter the country illegally. Problem solved.
They're gonna do it anyway.
So it looks doomed to being a continuing catch
& release program for for parents with children.
Father Heathen
Veteran Member
So the mistakes of the parents make it's excusable to abuse their children? While we obviously can't allow people to flood in without any sort of vetting/documentation process, these are people from dire situations, desperately seeking a better life for their families.
I just needed clarification.
Shad
Veteran Member
Have you considered falling for appeal to emotions is not the best way to count score?
I need supervision.
It isn’t illegal for a refugee claimants to claim asylum... even if it isn’t at an official port of entry.
It's not that I'm validating emotional appeal but you have to be an idiot to not to anticipate it in politics.
Yes, emotional appeal is a fallacy. There, will that fix the overall perception of conservatives?
Anyways... There's plenty of evidence and authority appeal to suggest the separation of the children was wrong. I don't agree that a photo was used to strengthen the position but there were already opinions from medical professionals particularly pediatricians to suggest it was wrong.
Politics is not going to change because you want to be idealistic in this scenario. Neither will the media or organizational use of media like Russians buying Facebook ads. They weren't buying ads to promote businesses...
Again, that is today's world and all political leaders have to deal with it.
What could possibly make this hypocritical for anyone is to highlight it when it's done against one's agenda but turn a blind eye when done against the opposition.
ShushersRdamned
Member
No friend of Rump is my friend.
ShushersRdamned
Member
Who?
ShushersRdamned
Member
That doesn't even locate the problem.
ShushersRdamned
Member
The next Rump campaign phrase.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
These folks could have applied for "asylum" at one of the many US Embassies in Mexico without the threat of arrest and/or deportation. You're being played.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
Care to elaborate with an intelligent argument/statement instead of trying to impress us with your ability to use a keyboard?
From NOLO ...
You Cannot Apply for Asylum at a U.S. Embassy or Consulate
Asylum is a form of legal protection available to certain people who cannot or would not feel safe if they tried to live in their home country, because of past persecution or the danger of future persecution based on their race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.
Unfortunately, U.S. embassies and consulates cannot process requests for this form of protection because, under U.S. law, asylum seekers can apply only if they are physically present in the United States (or at least at a U.S. border or other point of entry).
Asylum is a form of legal protection available to certain people who cannot or would not feel safe if they tried to live in their home country, because of past persecution or the danger of future persecution based on their race, religion, nationality, membership in a particular social group, or political opinion.
Unfortunately, U.S. embassies and consulates cannot process requests for this form of protection because, under U.S. law, asylum seekers can apply only if they are physically present in the United States (or at least at a U.S. border or other point of entry).
ShushersRdamned
Member
It's easmy enough to see the poster merely wrote by sentiment and not in relation to the subject.
BSM1
What? Me worry?
But...but...you didn't post the entire article. If you had you would have noted that the US Embassy can grant you refuge and protection if you were truly in need of asylum. Being that these folks at the border did not try this route first may indicate that they wish to sneak into another country for maybe more self-centered reasons. You're being played.
Shad
Veteran Member
Never said use of emotion was new or unusual
I can not fix what is most likely a subjective perception applied to anyone on a whim.
Pediatricians do not create law. More so their view would extend into other crimes causing separation. By this logic a criminal just needs to have a child by which to pull your heart strings.
What scenario would that be since I never mentioned one? I only questioned how you are keeping "score"
Meh. It had fair less of an impact than typical American methods of invasion, coups and funneling money to dissident groups.
You think I ignored Trumps use of emotions?
Beside the first reply the rest of your comment seems to be projection of mind rather than anything I said.