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Koran dated to before Muhamad birth.

outhouse

Atheistically
Some verses in the quran speaking about facts that we know today and can never be known by a man in the 7th century besides the prophet prophecies.

Unsubstantiated rhetoric.

Its why you have no credible sources. Your using luck and wishful thinking.
 
Some verses in the quran speaking about facts that we know today and can never be known by a man in the 7th century besides the prophet prophecies.

I think I know where you're going with this, but can you please give examples?

It make sense to me to travel in high speed from Mecca to Jerusalem, the Buraq which was the tool of travelling is derived from the word the lightning which means the speed of light according to the Arabic word in the quran.

Buraq does mean lighting, however it does not mean "speed of light", let's not confuse the words here, I understand Arabic. But the main point is you're not willing to accept that God can walk as a man yet you're willing to accept that Mohammad was able to travel at the speed of light back 1400 years ago when even modern science is nowhere near such accomplishment?

What biblical stories that mentioned in the quran which makes no sense, examples pls.

Many stories which have plenty of magic, Jesus, Moses, Noah, etc.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
He did so with a sword. Not theology.

Can you make the Arab world today as a great nation by the sword ?

The sword can never make a great nation.

See the Arab world of today being as weak as the Tribes in the Arabian peninsula then imagine if one man made it to be
the first superpower in the world, what you'll think of him other than being a great man., not to mention that the Muslim weakness
of today was foretold by the prophet.
 

outhouse

Atheistically
The sword can never make a great nation.

Ialsm is not a nation :rolleyes:

Its a divided theology based on mythology plagiarized from a bible.

It has no central organization and the sectarian violence in its own ranks kills more then any other violence.


Great nation of violence and constant war?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
I think I know where you're going with this, but can you please give examples?

You can search for it yourself and i think you know what i was talking about.

Buraq does mean lighting, however it does not mean "speed of light", let's not confuse the words here, I understand Arabic. But the main point is you're not willing to accept that God can walk as a man yet you're willing to accept that Mohammad was able to travel at the speed of light back 1400 years ago when even modern science is nowhere near such accomplishment?

Buraq is different than Baraq, if you know Arabic then you should know it, البراق is different than البرق
Do you believe that UFOs do exist but no one yet understand where are they coming from.

Many stories which have plenty of magic, Jesus, Moses, Noah, etc.

Can you give an example ?
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Ialsm is not a nation :rolleyes:

Its a divided theology based on mythology plagiarized from a bible.

It has no central organization and the sectarian violence in its own ranks kills more then any other violence.


Great nation of violence and constant war?

You weren't sincere in your answer, you refused to admit that Mohammed did a good job by converting a barbarian tribe
to a great empire.
 

columbus

yawn <ignore> yawn
Can you make the Arab world today as a great nation by the sword ?

The sword can never make a great nation.

Isis is a group of Muslims who have faith in the Quran and Allah to make them a great superpower.
That is the problem with faith. People can have faith in nearly anything and it is as true as any other faith.
Tom
 

outhouse

Atheistically
you refused to admit that Mohammed did a good job by converting a barbarian tribe
to a great empire.

What great empire?

Is using force and blood spilled a good job?


The only way to judge if he did a good job was to see how history would have turned out without him.

Without him we would still have some kind of monotheism it just would have taken place slower.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
Isis is a group of Muslims who have faith in the Quran and Allah to make them a great superpower.
That is the problem with faith. People can have faith in nearly anything and it is as true as any other faith.
Tom

No they aren't superpower, they're gangs
 

outhouse

Atheistically
Supply credible sources and prove your statement Or one run from the truth because one knows he cannot.
 

FearGod

Freedom Of Mind
What great empire?

Is using force and blood spilled a good job?


The only way to judge if he did a good job was to see how history would have turned out without him.

Without him we would still have some kind of monotheism it just would have taken place slower.

Compare the world before the 7th century and after it, the world changed rapidly towards civilization which can never be achieved
with the barbarian world of that era.
 
You can search for it yourself and i think you know what i was talking about.

I have searched it and read it in details, there's nothing in there that proves anything. This is why I asked you to bring up an example so we can discuss it.

Buraq is different than Baraq, if you know Arabic then you should know it, البراق is different than البرق

Actually if you want to be more precise, the word comes from a 3 letter Semitic root "B-R-Q", this same word exists in Aramaic and Hebrew and it means lightning. But even if we understand the meaning of the word, you still did not answer the question, you're willing to believe that Mohammad was able to travel at the speed of light with no technology that even modern science has not achieved, yet you cannot accept that God can walk down in a human form. To me they're both illogical, to you it's obviously you're choosing one over the other, what's your reasoning besides your faith?

Do you believe that UFOs do exist but no one yet understand where are they coming from.

I have not seen one but if they do exist, prove they're not some military technology? Or perhaps an advanced alien specie? Who knows, that's why they're UFOs (Unidentified flying objects). So are we trying to claim that Mohammad traveled with aliens now?

Can you give an example ?

Sure, Jesus talking as an infant and Moses splitting the sea are two off the top of my head.
 
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