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LEFTISTS fear opposing views, a prime example is provided

The Hammer

The Hammer

Skald
Premium Member
Evangelicalhumanist said:
It is very unlikely that people with lower IQs can pass the necessary requirements for a 4-year degree. That usually takes about 115 or more. Under 100 or so makes it a near impossibility. But an IQ of 100 or less is not necessarily a "mental disability." More a lack of natural ability to make the necessary connections between ideas that a higher education requires.
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Koldo said:
Source?
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"College students once stood out from the pack on IQ tests. Today, they're about average. A recent meta-analysis found that undergraduates' IQs have steadily fallen from roughly 119 in 1939 to a mean of 102 in 2022, just slightly above the population average of 100."

bigthink.com

Undergraduates' average IQ has fallen 17 points since 1939. Here's why.

A new analysis shows that undergraduates' IQs have decreased over the past four decades as attending college has grown more common.
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Heyo

Heyo

Veteran Member
Evangelicalhumanist said:
It is very unlikely that people with lower IQs can pass the necessary requirements for a 4-year degree. That usually takes about 115 or more. Under 100 or so makes it a near impossibility. But an IQ of 100 or less is not necessarily a "mental disability." More a lack of natural ability to make the necessary connections between ideas that a higher education requires.
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That depends pretty much on the field of study. Some degrees can be attained by raw memorization. Others, like maths or physics, do need an IQ this side of 115.
 
Evangelicalhumanist

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
The Hammer said:
"College students once stood out from the pack on IQ tests. Today, they're about average. A recent meta-analysis found that undergraduates' IQs have steadily fallen from roughly 119 in 1939 to a mean of 102 in 2022, just slightly above the population average of 100."

bigthink.com

Undergraduates' average IQ has fallen 17 points since 1939. Here's why.

A new analysis shows that undergraduates' IQs have decreased over the past four decades as attending college has grown more common.
bigthink.com bigthink.com
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That same study also says that those with that level of IQ have just a 50-50 chance of graduating a 4-year degree.
 
Eliana

Eliana

Member
Evangelicalhumanist said:
It is very unlikely that people with lower IQs can pass the necessary requirements for a 4-year degree. That usually takes about 115 or more. Under 100 or so makes it a near impossibility. But an IQ of 100 or less is not necessarily a "mental disability." More a lack of natural ability to make the necessary connections between ideas that a higher education requires.
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A lot more then 6% of the population have a university degree, which is roughly the percentage with a115+ iq... so your snobbish theory is junk.

Numerous studies have shown that iq tests are not an accurate indicator of intelligence. I have a 170 iq, so you know my posting this isn't sour grapes.
 
Evangelicalhumanist

Evangelicalhumanist

"Truth" isn't a thing...
Premium Member
Eliana said:
A lot more then 6% of the population have a university degree, which is roughly the percentage with a115+ iq... so your snobbish theory is junk.

Numerous studies have shown that iq tests are not an accurate indicator of intelligence. I have a 170 iq, so you know my posting this isn't sour grapes.
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It is approximated that around 6.845% of the world is educated to the level equivalent to the Bachelor's Degree. This percent is somewhat small due to the fact that there are a lot of third world countries with a lack of education. So, all in all, when you get that degree, you are indeed part of the 7%.

So, of course, you are perhaps referring to just some of the world. And in just some of the world, there are other factors that contribute:
  • Socioeconomic Status: Family income, parental education, and access to resources can significantly influence educational outcomes.
  • Personality Traits: Traits like conscientiousness, perseverance, and motivation are important predictors of academic success.
  • Educational Environment: The quality of schooling, access to mentorship, and supportive learning environments can all impact the likelihood of completing a 4-year degree.
Yes, I'm aware of those, too. But there is simply no denying that IS is positively correlated with graduating a 4-year degree program -- and this is most especially true in STEM majors. Now, those other contributing factors aren't necessarily available to everyone.
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Argentbear

Argentbear

Well-Known Member
wellwisher said:
It appears to be fear but expressed as both fight and/or flight. They either run away or constantly attack. They do not present their arguments in a logical way to be discussed and critiqued in an adult way. There is dogma, manipulation of emotions, name calling; attack the messenger or loud over talking to avoid hearing opposing views. This is due to blind acceptance, combined with unconscious inner doubt.
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you really summed up conservatives here.
 
LeftyLen

LeftyLen

Active Member
Eliana said:
Oh whatever. No one gives a rats behind what Bill Maher thinks. He's a smug bigot and an anti-vaccine conspiracy pusher.

EDIT: I also wish right wing Americans would learn what actual socialism/marxism/communism is. You people use the term so broadly, much like "woke" that it has no real meaning.
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What shocks me is Marx in spite of millions dead, imprisoned enslaved still has supporters. the notion its supporters have is Marxism has not been tried in
'the right way yet, bythe right people.' I wonder who Mahar is 'bigoted ' against, he is clearly on the left, he is no anti vac that is pure nonsense. He is very popular.
 
Eliana

Eliana

Member
LeftyLen said:
What shocks me is Marx in spite of millions dead, imprisoned enslaved still has supporters. the notion its supporters have is Marxism has not been tried in
'the right way yet, bythe right people.' I wonder who Mahar is 'bigoted ' against, he is clearly on the left, he is no anti vac that is pure nonsense. He is very popular.
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He is anti-Vaccination, maybe do a bit of a Google next time. Regardless, who cares how popular he is? As if that has any relation to the validity of his opinions.

Argumentum ad populum

Argument from authority

I also don't care about this left/right bull that Americans consume their lives with, and I yet also don't care if someone on the same ideological spectrum as I (he isn't btw) has an opinion. I think for myself and couldn't care less what others have to say unless they demonstrate expertise in said area.
 
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LeftyLen

LeftyLen

Active Member
Eliana said:
He is anti-Vaccination, maybe do a bit of a Google next time. Regardless, who cares how popular he is? As if that has any relation to the validity of his opinions.

Argumentum ad populum

Argument from authority

I also don't care about this left/right bull that Americans consume their lives with, and I yet also don't care if someone on the same ideological spectrum as I (he isn't btw) has an opinion. I think for myself and couldn't care less what others have to say unless they demonstrate expertise in said area.
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misanthropic
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Regiomontanus said:
I agree with Bill on some issues. But he is very ignorant and intolerant on others. Not impressed with him overall and BTW he is one of the unfunniest comedians I have ever seen (and he has a team of writers that help with his monologue).
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Yeah. He has some really good discussions on his show but he's a jerk and a comedian who's so lame he laughs at his own jokes.
 
Shadow Wolf

Shadow Wolf

Certified People sTabber & Business Owner
Evangelicalhumanist said:
It is approximated that around 6.845% of the world is educated to the level equivalent to the Bachelor's Degree. This percent is somewhat small due to the fact that there are a lot of third world countries with a lack of education. So, all in all, when you get that degree, you are indeed part of the 7%.

So, of course, you are perhaps referring to just some of the world. And in just some of the world, there are other factors that contribute:
  • Socioeconomic Status: Family income, parental education, and access to resources can significantly influence educational outcomes.
  • Personality Traits: Traits like conscientiousness, perseverance, and motivation are important predictors of academic success.
  • Educational Environment: The quality of schooling, access to mentorship, and supportive learning environments can all impact the likelihood of completing a 4-year degree.
Yes, I'm aware of those, too. But there is simply no denying that IS is positively correlated with graduating a 4-year degree program -- and this is most especially true in STEM majors. Now, those other contributing factors aren't necessarily available to everyone.
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I can vouch a higher IQ will definitely make for a huge difference and advantage in philosophy, especially in the third and fourth year and advanced classes.
I invite anyone who says IQ doesn't matter to take on some Hegel or Heidegger. Or Foucault and Nietzsche. Or Descartes and Spinoza.
 
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