Let's see if we can define 'Islamophobia'.

[firedragon]

The Quran,yes I have but I came to a conclusion that there were actually two,the surahs of Mecca and the ones from Yathrib/Medina.

Haha. Very big achievement. Super going. Congratulations.

 

[England my lionheart]

Thought Omar Khayyam was a poet? Even more impressive if he was also a mathematician. These people were products of Islamic culture, just like Leonardo Da Vinci and Isaac Newton were products, at least in part, of Christian culture (and Spinosa and Einstein were products of Jewish culture).

No,Imru Qais (spelling) was a pre Islam poet,Omar Khayyam was a mathematician,keep trying.

 

[firedragon]

Omar Khayyam was a mathematician,keep trying.

Mathematician, POET, Astronomer and philosopher mate.

 

[England my lionheart]

Mathematician, POET, Astronomer and philosopher mate.

There ya go mate,he had a questioning mind.

 

[firedragon]

There ya go mate,he had a questioning mind.

Very good. Keep it up. Just that, you were denying he was a poet insisting he was a mathematician. You should know that your research was flawed. Cheers.

 

[England my lionheart]

Very good. Keep it up. Just that, you were denying he was a poet insisting he was a mathematician. You should know that your research was flawed. Cheers.

I think mathematics was his most notable,cheers

 

[RestlessSoul]

I think mathematics was his most notable,cheers

The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, translated into English by Edward Fitzgerald, is one of the best known poems in world literature.

The moving finger writes
And having writ moves on.
Nor all thy piety nor wit
Can turn it back to change
A single line
Nor all thy tears
Wash out one word of it.

 

[idea]

What’s the term for when you feel deep sympathy for a group of people, not fearful of them, but pity their circumstances? I feel sorry for women who must wear restrictive black robes, I feel sadness for those who are uneducated and born into countries with limited resources, I feel sorrow towards any oppressive religious beliefs that hinder growth and learning opportunities. I feel a profound sense of compassion and sorrow for all who live oppressed by religious dogmas and confines.

 

[idea]

The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, translated into English by Edward Fitzgerald, is one of the best known poems in world literature.

The moving finger writes
And having writ moves on.
Nor all thy piety nor wit
Can turn it back to change
A single line
Nor all thy tears
Wash out one word of it.

A jug of wine, a loaf of bread, and thou,
Beside me singing in the wilderness—
Oh, wilderness were paradise enow!

simple pleasures - but the best quatrain to me, where he stands against Muslim beliefs:

32: "The Revelations of the Light are in my Soul,
And I find that the Light is my sole Goal.
So why should I care what the Prophet says?
His Prophecies are not for me, they are foul."


64: "And that inverted Bowl we call The Sky,
Whereunder crawling coop’d we live and die,
Lift not thy hands to It for help—for It
Rolls impotently on as Thou or I."


... Do not call to Allah, do not call to God.
Just the laws of nature rolling by, it's a better mindset when one realizes, it is all the laws of nature.

Good poetry.

 

[England my lionheart]

The Rubaiyat of Omar Khayyam, translated into English by Edward Fitzgerald, is one of the best known poems in world literature.

The moving finger writes
And having writ moves on.
Nor all thy piety nor wit
Can turn it back to change
A single line
Nor all thy tears
Wash out one word of it.

Omar is a Persian mathematician, astronomer, and poet. He made great contributions to these areas. He is best known for his work in geometric algebra, the Jalil calendar, and his poetry collected as, The Rubaiyat.

 

[stevecanuck]

I disagree. You can't compartmentalise people and culture like that. See my answer above in post #254

Please provide just one of the Qur'an's 6,236 verses that encourages academic pursuits.

 

[firedragon]

I think mathematics was his most notable,cheers

The problem is, you didn't say "most notable" but you just denied he was was a poet but a mathematician. So you see how you work?

That's the problem with shallow research. At least practice some epistemic humbleness.

Anyway, have a great day.

 

[stevecanuck]

The Quran,yes I have but I came to a conclusion that there were actually two,the surahs of Mecca and the ones from Yathrib/Medina.

The difference between the two is stark. Islam finally differentiated itself in Yathrib. In Mecca it was little more than a rehash of the OT.

 

[stevecanuck]

... Do not call to Allah, do not call to God.
Just the laws of nature rolling by, it's a better mindset when one realizes, it is all the laws of nature.

Good poetry.

Oh, that is decidedly un-Islamic.

 

[muhammad_isa]

I used to enjoy the hadiths which were like very old stories but the have no place in the modern world.

What is "the modern world", exactly?

Are there not still fields and trees, and farmers and other people who need food and shelter?
Maybe you live on the moon and eat 'space food'.

 

[England my lionheart]

The difference between the two is stark. Islam finally differentiated itself in Yathrib. In Mecca it was little more than a rehash of the OT.

I agree but because the Quran isn’t in chronological order it doesn’t get noticed.

 

[firedragon]

I agree but because the Quran isn’t in chronological order it doesn’t get noticed.

Out of how many people on earth?

 

[England my lionheart]

What is "the modern world", exactly?

Are there not still fields and trees, and farmers and other people who need food and shelter?
Maybe you live on the moon and eat 'space food'.

The “modern world” is without clumsy baggage.

 

[England my lionheart]

Out of how many people on earth?

I’ll do a survey and let you know if I can find anyone interested in completing it.

 

[firedragon]

I’ll do a survey and let you know

Excellent. Thats a decent start. Be sure to get a random sample of a valid number for statistical validation. Good beginning.