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Louisiana becomes first state to require that Ten Commandments be displayed in public classrooms
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Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
The Confederacy hated the Declaration of Independence and the Constitution too.I had to look it up:
Not my cup of tea
Regiomontanus
Orthodox
Sure, but for different (and ugly) reasons. We could do much better than what we have now.
SkepticThinker
Veteran Member
I bet these are the same Republicans who claim that "woke liberals" are trying to indoctrinate their children.
Oh, the irony.
Oh, the irony.
Balthazzar
Christian Evolutionist
Herzlich
New Member
Not a Protestant-based nation! Freedom of worship is a constitutional right, whether that is the worship of Allah, Jahweh, Brahma, or other.
Mhmm. I agree
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
That requires calling out those who proactively bastardize the Constitution and the Bill of Rights for their own political game.
Mainly involving the issues of legislation from the bench and the usage of lawfare.
Regiomontanus
Orthodox
I agree with that, but one side is worse than the other - though we likely disagree which one.
Twilight Hue
Twilight, not bright nor dark, good nor bad.
Then in such cases it would be prudent to call out both sides to put a stop to it.
metis
aged ecumenical anthropologist
You seemingly keep missing the point that the Decalogue are religions teachings-- period. Louisiana is a state that falls under the jurisdiction of the Constitution and the 1st Amendment, and that also applies to all the remaining 49.
So, are you proposing ending the Constitution's 1st Amendment or ignoring it? Your responses I find rather confusing, although I may not have read them all.
Balthazzar
Christian Evolutionist
I'm proposing that in a secular nation with freedom of religion, and one having a constitution directing us as to how we adopt our laws, that the constitution would allow for the 10 commandments in that State, given they show no bias of the laws of religious practices, at least in terms of penal decisions. For example, some religions still hold to stoning, others still hold to cutting off the hands of thieves, etc. We no longer have crucifixions, or beheadings, things of that nature. When a majority comes together to approve a list as a document for display, no matter whether it came from the Bible, the Torah, the Quaran, or the many other texts available, it shows no partiality in the laws of our nation.
I'm happy about what happened 50 years ago, but I'm also happy about the new move forward. The effort is not unnoticed, nor the resistance to allowing them the display of their choosing by the secular among us.
Pogo
Well-Known Member
This is the falsehood, it is not the secular that are making the decision. The non-secular choosing to display their dogma is what is against the constitution as it always was even if it didn't get noticed till 50 years ago.
The issue here is not about "allowing" but about mandating. In other words what we are talking about is using the power of the State to force teachers to put up a sign in their classroom that says you can't worship any other God.
You can't do that and still pretend you have freedom of religion.
BINGO!
Maybe the historical context is this:
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Interesting that the original framers of the Constitution called it a Christian nation
John Jay > Quotes > Quotable Quote
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“Providence has given to our people the choice of their ruler, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers. John Jay First Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court.”
― John Jay, Cliffs Notes on The FederalistInteresting that the original framers of the Constitution called it a Christian nation
Questions....Maybe the historical context is this:
John Jay > Quotes > Quotable Quote
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“Providence has given to our people the choice of their ruler, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers. John Jay First Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court.”
― John Jay, Cliffs Notes on The Federalist
Interesting that the original framers of the Constitution called it a Christian nation
All of the framers wanted a Christian nation?
Do you believe that discrimination against non-Christians is legal?
That it is good?
Does Jay's statement supersede Jefferson's separation of church & state?
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Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
Too bad he was wrong and in contradiction with the First Amendment and Article IV of the Articles of Confederation at the beginning of the Constitution.......“no religious Test shall ever be required as a Qualification to any Office or public Trust under the United States.”Maybe the historical context is this:
John Jay > Quotes > Quotable Quote
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“Providence has given to our people the choice of their ruler, and it is the duty, as well as the privilege and interest of our Christian nation to select and prefer Christians for their rulers. John Jay First Chief Justice of the US Supreme Court.”
― John Jay, Cliffs Notes on The Federalist
Interesting that the original framers of the Constitution called it a Christian nation
So many Christians believe their faith trumps the Constitution.
This was so even among the founders. If John Jay were alive
today....
Viker
Your beloved eccentric Auntie Cristal
That little guy is smart. He knows that hell is fun.