Mat-Su bans transgender students from bathrooms that match their gender identity

[fantome profane]

Transgender is all in your head, and is not because of your body. What does gender needs really mean? A bathroom is about body function and need separated because the male and female body are different. It is about practical tools for the body and for not the head. A urinal is useful and practical for any biological male because it is fast and efficient. If you are a female in your head, in a male body, the urinal is still optimized for body practicality. Why dumb everyone down to an imagination criteria of the few instead of teach all rational practicality?.

Gender is all in your head, and is not because of your body. What does gender really mean? A bathroom is about bodily function. A urinal is useful and practical for any biological male because it is fast and efficient. Why dumb everyone down to an imaginary criteria?

 

[Stevicus]

Yeah, but I still stand firm it is not equalizing something to have something you don't need and only one is going to be using and can't use all the time anyways.

In lieu of urinals, I've seen some restrooms which have a long trough to pee in. It almost seems animalistic in a way. I used to have "bashful bladder" as a kid, but over time, I've found that "desperate bladder" will always overcome "bashful bladder."

You often find these troughs at stadiums and concert venues. I heard a story of one concert where the men were crowded in the men's room, peeing at the trough, when a woman came in, slipped down her pants and peed alongside the men. She was desperate to go, and all the women's facilities were in use and with a long line. I've heard of other stories like that, usually in the context of complaints about inequality between men's and women's restroom facilities in public venues.

 

[fantome profane]

Yeah, but I still stand firm it is not equalizing something to have something you don't need and only one is going to be using and can't use all the time anyways.

Are you opposed to tampon dispensers in public bathrooms?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Are you opposed to tampon dispensers in public bathrooms?

No. Those are a need and not a space consuming and unneeded want.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I've heard of other stories like that, usually in the context of complaints about inequality between men's and women's restroom facilities in public venues.

Yeah, not unusual for me to hear about women using the men's room because the women's room is taking longer.
However, it's not all entirely inequality as men usually get to be quicker.

 

[Wildswanderer]

The school board decision means transgender students must use bathrooms corresponding to their gender at birth or request private facilities.

Awesome! Why would anyone support girls and the boys restroom or vice versa?

 

[We Never Know]

Are you opposed to tampon dispensers in public bathrooms?

I had thought that same thing. After all "only one is going to be using and can't use all the time anyways".

 

[Left Coast]

It's also the state that gave rise to Sara Palin. So not just conservative, but kooky cartoon conservative.

To be fair, she just lost her run for Congress there.

 

[Left Coast]

Awesome! Why would anyone support girls and the boys restroom or vice versa?

They'd support girls using girls restrooms, including trans girls, and vice versa. Because trans people exist and deserve respect and equitable treatment.

 

[Father Heathen]

To be fair, she just lost her run for Congress there.

True.

They'd support girls using girls restrooms, including trans girls, and vice versa. Because trans people exist and deserve respect and equitable treatment.

The irony about this anti-trans restroom agenda is that women would actually be more shocked by transmen in their restroom than transwomen.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

I still stand with you want to take it way from men so they will have to equally use a toilet like women.

No, they can just stand and pee into the same toilet that they'd have to crap into anyways.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

True.


The irony about this anti-trans restroom agenda is that women would actually be more shocked by transmen in their restroom than transwomen.

He kind of looks like my youngest two nephew's dad.

 

[Shadow Wolf]

"Even women can pee standing, and without any devices."

So.... Without a device, do you just pee in the floor?

Do you just pee on the floor?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

What a strange fixation with toilet equality you have. What do you even mean by “equalizing” in this instance, and why would that even be necessary?

Haven't been paying attention, have you?

 

[Wildswanderer]

They'd support girls using girls restrooms, including trans girls, and vice versa. Because trans people exist and deserve respect and equitable treatment.

So what's to stop a teenage boy from pretending he is a girl so he gets to hang out in the girls shower?

 

[Shadow Wolf]

Amd just to clarify, there is absolutely no over stating or over emphasizing that cis-people are incomparably obsessed with bathroom usage than trans people.
Really, you cises make toilets such a huge issue and invest so much of your time into this that many may qualify for a clinical diagnosis over this unhealthy, hugely consuming obsession.

 

[We Never Know]

Do you just pee on the floor?

No I use a urinal. You are the one that said ""Even women can pee standing, and without any devices"

 

[Aštra’el]

Amd just to clarify, there is absolutely no over stating or over emphasizing that cis-people are incomparably obsessed with bathroom usage than trans people.
Really, you cises make toilets such a huge issue and invest so much of your time into this that many may qualify for a clinical diagnosis over this unhealthy, hugely consuming obsession.

^
Says the person raging over toilet equality.

 

[We Never Know]

No, they can just stand and pee into the same toilet that they'd have to crap into anyways.

As I said "I still stand with you want to take it way from men so they will have to equally use a toilet like women"

 

[Left Coast]

So what's to stop a teenage boy from pretending he is a girl so he gets to hang out in the girls shower?

Shame/conscience? Social norms? Adult supervision? Rules against sexual assault, stalking, etc?

This is a common fear conservatives have about trans people in bathrooms, but statistically they should have the opposite fear (trans people are more likely to be victims of SA, not perpetrators). When we allow people to use the bathrooms of their gender, we don't see opposite sex people faking trans-ness en masse to gawk at or assault people.

ETA: Perhaps this is different in different parts of the country, but my peers and I (Millennials) almost never got naked or used a public shower in our high school locker rooms. That is largely antiquated in my experience. Showers were technically available but never used, and quite gross and ancient. We would strip down to our underwear to change in PE but that's it. Perhaps other people my age or younger have had different experiences.