Men in the West are dressed in full; women are dressed half , quarter or less

[beenie]

I have a question:

Who cares? When are people (mainly men) going to stop "ranking women on a scale" by what she's wearing or not wearing?

Who really gives a poop?

 

[Alceste]

Complete nakedness would only indicate complete nakedness on an objective scale. Only on a subjective scale can you add values such as "complete nakedness = most shameful".

Different cultures certainly have different subjective scales over what constitues modesty vs immodesty. But even then, they aren't exactly hard-and-fast for every single person or every single community within that culture.

Exactly - which of these outfits do you think is more shameful, from the dog's perspective:

 

[Father Heathen]

nakeness which all of us agree that nakeness(bold) is shameful

No, all of us do not agree with such an irrational, unsubstantiated assertion, as we've already demonstrated numerous times previously in this very thread. There is absolutely nothing sinful nor shameful about nudity and sexuality. Both are natural and beautiful. It's primitive, oppressive religions that brainwash us to think otherwise. If you're not going to bother reading the thread, then you really shouldn't bother posting in it, either.

 

[FearGod]

No, all of us do not agree with such an irrational, unsubstantiated assertion, as we've already demonstrated numerous times previously in this very thread. There is absolutely nothing sinful nor shameful about nudity and sexuality. Both are natural and beautiful. It's primitive, oppressive religions that brainwash us to think otherwise. If you're not going to bother reading the thread, then you really shouldn't bother posting in it, either.

Yes natural and most beautiful

Spoiler: Canine mating

 

[Zoe Doidge]

Yes natural and most beautiful

I'm not sure beautiful is the word here lol, but it's definitely natural and in any case not shameful.

 

[FearGod]

I'm not sure beautiful is the word here lol, but it's definitely natural and in any case not shameful.

Yes sure,animal don't feel shame to do it in the open air.

 

[Sunstone]

Yes sure,animal don't feel shame to do it in the open air.

Depends on the animal. Humans are animals, but for evolutionary reasons, evolved to quite often feel shame at public sex.

 

[Father Heathen]

Depends on the animal. Humans are animals, but for evolutionary reasons, evolved to quite often feel shame at public sex.

By "evolved" you mean "indoctrinated"?

 

[Father Heathen]

Yes natural and most beautiful

Is that the best you can do? Maybe you really should reconsider participating in this thread. Of course people aren't going to find difference species' mating particularly "beautiful", albeit natural.

Try these instead:

The only thing hideous about these pictures are those disgusting cherubs.

 

[FearGod]

By "evolved" you mean "indoctrinated"?

No i guess for security reason during the stone era.

if a primitive man will saw 2 making love in the open-air,then he'll bring a huge stick and strike him on the back head
and he'll take his place and again if another man saw them,he'll do the same thing,so it wasn't because of abashment ,but because of fear,you know while doing it,concentration is down

 

[Father Heathen]

No i guess for security reason during the stone era.

if a primitive man will saw 2 making love in the open-air,then he'll bring a huge stick and strike him on the back head
and he'll take his place and again if another man saw them,he'll do the same thing,so it wasn't because of abashment ,but because of fear,you know while doing it,concentration is down

So by your own admission, Islamic societies are on a stone age level, and must shroud the females in order to protect them from the males? Does that mean men in the west are more evolved since such precautions are unnecessary?

 

[Gjallarhorn]

No i guess for security reason during the stone era.

if a primitive man will saw 2 making love in the open-air,then he'll bring a huge stick and strike him on the back head

...why?

 

[FearGod]

So by your own admission, Islamic societies are on a stone age level, and must shroud the females in order to protect them from the males? Does that mean men in the west are more evolved since such precautions are unnecessary?

Sorry that because of my discipline character which prevent me to make an insult to the west as a community for replying an ignorant person.

My morals prevent me to be dragged to silly arguement

 

[Father Heathen]

Sorry that because of my discipline character which prevent me to make an insult to the west as a community for replying an ignorant person.

My morals prevent me to be dragged to silly arguement

Did you enjoy the paintings?

 

[beenie]

FearGod, I can't figure out where you stand on this issue. You started the thread discussing how men in the west are fully clothed, yet women are not, then you went into your scale of decent clothing...rating from 0 to 10.

What exactly is the point here?

 

[Alceste]

Did you enjoy the paintings?

I was a little surprised the staff felt renaissance art might be considered offensive enough to hide it with spoiler tags. Any little kid can walk through a museum and see such things.

 

[Alceste]

Sorry that because of my discipline character which prevent me to make an insult to the west as a community for replying an ignorant person.

My morals prevent me to be dragged to silly arguement

Your discipline? How is being obsessed with making rules for what women should and shouldn't be allowed to wear a measure of your discipline?

 

[FearGod]

FearGod, I can't figure out where you stand on this issue. You started the thread discussing how men in the west are fully clothed, yet women are not, then you went into your scale of decent clothing...rating from 0 to 10.

What exactly is the point here?

ssainhu,itsn't me the one to start this thread,please check.
i was just sharing my thoughts and opinions.

 

[beenie]

ssainhu,itsn't me the one to start this thread,please check.
i was just sharing my thoughts and opinions.

Apologies, I stand corrected. Your thoughts and opinions have me a bit confuzzled though; what is your stance, exactly, given your "scale"?

 

[FearGod]

Your discipline? How is being obsessed with making rules for what women should and shouldn't be allowed to wear a measure of your discipline?

i didn't say what woman should or shouldn't wear,its up to her.
but its up to me how to evaluate her according to what she wear.

is't bad if i say that i don't like woman to wear hijab or if she wear bikini.
i am really wonder what mistake i had done in expressing my thoughts or my opinions.
you may say i agree or disagree.